I’m with the “not knowing is creepier” camp.
Stefan Hutchinson should write the next Halloween movie. I like his interpretations of the Halloween series best.
I think Michael was just driven by a violent act… the compulsion to kill. Simple as.
I did like how Zombie explained his vision of Myers because when compared to murderous events that have been happening over the last 50 years it feels very relevant.
I think Zombie’s vision of Myers is frightening when you associate this with the pertinent fact that some imbalanced people are continually damaged emotionally by external forces (bullying, abuse, neglect, ridicule) which cause them to explode internally and lash back violently… its happening all the time… Zombie’s Myers is more real, relevant and terrifying when equated with the unrestrained behaviour of contemporary society. His Myers could be the kid that sat next to you in class. Look at all the school shootings that keep recurring… it’s these kind of atrocities that I’m alluding to.
But Carpenters Myers can be just, if not more scary because he could be the same as the above or he could just be pure evil.
I feel basically he was just evil there was no motive! and honestly I like it that way not knowing why!
I think Judith gave up A2M to the boyfriend, and a young jealous Mike was like, “Oh HAYL No…”
You know I like the “We don’t know what drove him to do this” angle a lot better than having an explanation. I think humans in general always want to know WHY things happen, possibly as a way of coping with horrible events a bit more manageable. When there simply IS NO explanation, and nobody will ever know WHY…then that to me is much more unsettling.
Couldn’t agree with you more! 
I would vote for Stefan all the way. He seems to really understand the fundamentals of the “Halloween” movies and knows how to put them to practice. I would really like to see his take on the series.
Now that’s some funny shit right there I tell you what . 
correct it’s a documented fact ( the Hosptial records are on the net ) that 2 pac shakuar was shot 9 times - 50 cent claimed 8 times but in fact records showed it was only 3 times - regardless yes it is highly possible as it has happened - heck war heroes have hailed that much and than some
" I shot him six times…I shot him in the heart. This guy, this man, he ain’t human!" The line was from H2 so it doesn’t really hold water for this theory but a heart shot is a hard one to walk away from. Then again, Loomis may simply be a lousy shot.
Wow wicked, are you still one now ?
true but they weren’t a lousy shots at the end of Halloween 4 Return of Michael Myers lol
what about how he looks at the knife as he stabs his sister?its like hes outside looking in…i mean his look when his parents get home sais it all,total confusion of what just happened.
Thats why the H6 exclamation makes so much sense and ties all the moves together ( for me at least ) he was brain washed by the Thorn Cult! The Summer of Samhain , pagen rituals , mark of Thorn, runes/rune stones ( THORN ) , Druids…Hell look at Halloween 3 - the stone used to make those Shamrock medallions placed in those masks was that from a piece removed from STONE HENGE !
Sure some would have liked to see it ended after Halloween 2 ( but i think they are full of shiot!) Reason being it’s easy to say that now cause they have had yrs to see the movies over and over and lay judgment - but were all marks and would have demanded a renewal / sequel or whatever yrs later …all of use would not have been satisfied with just Halloween 1/2 and that’s a fact!
Cult of Thorn
The Cult of Thorn was a cult of druids. Although depending on which version seen of Halloween 6, There are some differences. In the Official verison, the Sanitarium crew are not the cult of Thorn at all but just cult geneticists trying to study the rune of Thorn and using Michael’s curse for their own experiments which involved cloning Michael. The Sanitarium has been using the women of the institution for their experiments by possibly performing in vitro fertilization on them.
In the “Producer’s Cut” of Halloween 6 they are actually a cult.
Known Members
- Terence Wynn (Leader)
- Mrs. Blankenship
- Dawn Thompson
- Dr. Bonham
- Mary
Curse of Thorn
The Curse of Thorn is a constellation that could appear during Halloween. To prevent mass death among the tribes, one family was chosen to bear the curse. This curse would require the bearer to sacrificially murder his or her entire family, which in turn would spare their community from events such as plague and drought. The curse also appears to give the cursed inhuman strength and immunity from death.
The curse was greatly explored in the “Producer’s Cut” of Halloween 6, with more importance given to Dr. Wynn and his Cult. At the end of that cut, a dying Wynn passes the curse to Dr. Loomis which is the real reason Loomis screams at the end of the film.
edit Mark of Thorn
The Mark
The Mark of Thorn was a symbol that appeared on the wrist of those involved with the cult or were cursed by them. It could be seen on Michael’s wrist and in the producer’s cut, can be seen on Dr. Wynn and later Sam Loomis.
I’d go with that one. Think about it. Loomis was a doctor. A psychiatrist. He wasn’t a trained police officer or anything. He was, for the most part, a normal guy who owned a gun. Sure, missing 6 shots at close range is unlikely, but possible. It was pretty dark to begin with, and how many people do you think Loomis had actually shot at before Myers? I’d bet my bottom dollar it was ZERO, lol…
So I usually tell myself he landed 2 or 3 out of the 6. Sure, he’s hurt, but JUST well enough to scurry away after the fall to return home. If the original Halloween were the only installment, I’d probably assume Myers got home, went into his bedroom, and bled to death. But seeing as how Halloween II exists, that theory kinda fades. Especially since Myers is more of a “monster” in Halloween II rather than human.
This is a great discussion and you all have some awesome insights to share. Here’s my take on it.
First of all, I think H6 with the ‘thorn’ idea is a good idea. It was executed poorly, but at least they had the imagination to look into the history of Halloween. In H1, everything was implied which has its own brand of mystique.
As for why Michael killed his sister on Halloween and all his subsequent victims on Halloween and only that day…combined with the fact that his body never gave out no matter how much trauma he endured leads me to believe that there IS something supernatural at work and I think that was what Carpenter himself was subtly trying to get across to his audience. Personally, I don’t believe Myers himself is “pure evil”. Look at that child’s eyes in the beginning of the movie. Do you see evil in his eyes? I mean sure, he’s just an actor but it’s not like Carpenter said “look mean!” The kid appears to be in a trance-like state. So I don’t think he was “born evil” or even “made evil”, including as an adult. I think what he was…was “possessed” by pure evil. Some ancient demonic entity that was worshipped by the old dark Pagans (not all Pagans were dark btw) on Halloween/Samhain is what took possession of Myers (according to my theory). It took posession of him ALL year around but only on Halloween was the “active side” unleashed. I think the saddest mistake Carpenter ever made was to make Laurie out to be his sister. It’s something that tainted the rest of the series. I mean this was a decision Carpenter made in the late hours piss-ass drunk trying to come up with a storyline for the sequel. It’s gotten taken so seriously that even Rob Zombie made it part of HIS “re-make”. But as for why Myers killed his real sister Judith, I don’t think it was from any psychological disorder of his own, my theory (that I enjoy btw haha) is that on that dark particular night, the evil side of the ancient Pagan holiday chose him to wreak destruction upon the innocent. The fact that Judith was having a quickie with her crush (not even a BF) was just happenstance IMO. He would have killed her anyway. If it was all about wanting to kill people for having sex, he’d have no motivation to kill Laurie in H1. And remember, in H1, Carpenter hadn’t yet thought of Laurie as being his sister. And also, there’s no way for a 6 year old to even have any conception of sex, not to mention the fact that he didn’t even see her doing it. He had no clue that his sister got just gotten laid. We know that for a fact, as the audience, because WE didn’t see her having sex and we were with Michael the whole time. So that scene with Loomis when he told Brackett “he could see her through this window” is a flaw on Carpenter’s part. There’s no way an adult could have seen through that window without an enormous ladder, let alone a small kid.
Anyway, in a nutshell…for me it’s more fun to add some ancient Pagan Halloween history to the Myers story, even if only in an implied way. I personally see Michael Myers…the Shape, as being as much of a victim as HIS victims, and even more so since he’s not permitted to die, or to be liberated from the ancient Samhain curse. Makes it more fun to think of it that way, I think. Remember, the movie is called “Halloween”, not “Michael Myers”.
I’d love to see H6 re-made. Same idea, similar story traits, but totally revised…and preferably having nothing to do with Michael Myers. Call it “the curse of thorn” or even “the curse of samhain” or something along that line.
true true. that is what i as thinking about, i have been a paramedic/firefighter for almost 15 years and i have seen two guys shot in the head and they talked to me all the way to the hospital. i have seen alot more dead as hell from that but it def is possible.
i think michael is just a killing machine.
mike
2 people got shot in the head in boston yesterday both lived…im pretty sure michael can take six slugs…and you ever see like most shocking when people fall off HUGE things an the announcer is like ‘‘atoshinginly the suspect gets up and runs away!’’ take the guy that robbed the bank and jumped off that BRIDGE! he got up and RAN, i honestly always thought michael is more of a real human when noones around…im willing to bet he ran away holding his wounds after being shot…but was so blood thirsty it bairly affected him…i dont think he would of lasted after that night without medical attention, though.
wow i loved this whole read … 
And your right he was gonna do her in anyway , hell he had her and her bo not went upstairs they both may have gotten it -as we did see everything through Michaels eyes ( i believe he did see them on the bottom floor when they were watching TV on the couch and when they went upstairs ) I agree Michael was chosen. Not so much of the other sister either cause they were no signs of her in the first scenes in H1 - I mean if the older sister Judith was babysitting Michael ? Why not Laurie ? And as we can all atest the parents arrived from an outing and there was no young sister present. Not sure what happened to the Myers Family ( did it say in the original ) what ever the case Laurie must have been born after and than given to the strodes for adoption - can some one remind me as i have forgotten
loved this whole discussion hoping there’s more ideas or in depth thought to this - best talk i have had in awhile 
I always thought that he killed Judith because she was supposed to be babysitting Michael and she dissed him for her boyfriend, like she didn’t give a crap about him. Hence Michael’s original disdain for babysitters (before the whole Laurie is his sister element came into the story).
Zombie also stressed the point of Michael being ignored by Judith in his remake.