1978 Myers VS 2007 RZ Myers

Which one do you like better and why? Not talking about the movies as a whole, but myers in general. The mask, his overall look, attitude, etc. Please post:)

They both have their positives, I think. RZ delivered a grittier, more raw version to the usually subtle (or is some cases less than so) Myers that we’re used to. We got a great performance of a mute brute from Tyler Mane and we got a great performance of a silent creeper from Castle, Warlock, et al. I personally enjoy the progression of the Myers costuming in the remakes, which was really a good change of pace from the usual white mask and coveralls combo that we’re so used to. I’ll admit, by H20, I find the series a little dull and I enjoy the break from the norm RZ gives us.

Rob zombie halloween all the way!!! Way scarier version of micheal myers, without a doubt

I like both. Nothing will beat the original '78 version, it was ahead of it’s time and brought something new to the horror genre. The simplicity in which the film was made and the scare that it provides is amazing. You can’t beat the blank look / stare and creepy vibe the original mask provides.

However, RZ’s is great too. I like the back story that RZ provided giving the viewer more insight to Michael’s troubled past. Tyler Mane also provided a much larger intimidating figure on screen than Nick Castle.

Definitely Tyler Mane’s version. I really think that people over look a lot of what he did in that film. He had plenty of creepy shadow stalker moments, as well as pure brutality. His mask is much more interesting, and scary, in my opinion. Plus, 5’9 Michael is scary, and to me 6’9 Michael is terrifying.

'78 Myers, no question.

Although part of me and my personal childhood lived a bit vicariously through RZ’s Myers, it still doesn’t come close to rivaling the true terror evoked by Carpenter’s Shape. But, it all depends on what you like and your preferences. If you find the brutality scary I can easily see how RZ’s version appeals to you. But, for those a bit more cerebral and intrigued by thought-provoking suspense and tension, '78 Myers will always be the man.

I love both for similar and different reasons.

The 78 Myers is more of a crazy psycho without a reason. The 07 version of Michael is more anger driven rather than a insanely crazy psychopath and has a reason for his killings. The 78 is more creepy, but I prefer more exciting action killing which was shown way more in 07. I’m not saying I don’t like 78, I love it! I just prefer the excitement in the remake.

RZ Myers All the way! Tyler did amazing job with the character! And just overall violence, narly!

Although 1978 Myers will always be the classic and something I can pull off do to height haha…Tyler Mane screwed me over with his damn height of 6 foot 8…“F*CK YOU MAN!” jk lol :laughing:

78 Myers: creepy, subtle, enigmatic, and patient.

07 Myers: in your face, boorish, visceral, and hulking.

I think if the 2 personalities were combined into 1, we’d have a truly great “remake”.

Don’t get me wrong, I think there was some merit to the Zombie retelling, but I just can’t find
a brutal killer all that frightening when he’s standing in the middle of a street. Then again,
Tyler Mane’s physicality was breathtakingly horrifying. Like I said, combine the two, and that
would be something worth looking forward to seeing. Zombie just took it too over the
top. He should have reined him in a bit, made him lurk behind things a little more. I understand that totally mimicking the original probably wouldn’t work, but even still…most of the time, less is more. When something’s too garish, it’s not as easy to take seriously.

For me, 78 Myers all the way.

78 or 2007. If both where in front of you which one would you be more scared of? You’d be crazy to say 78 myers. The mask and size of 2007 myers is terrifying. Honestly watching the 78, I don’t find myers scary at all. But most older people will say 78 because they grew up with it. But like I said the best way to picture it is if they were both next to each other. RZ FTW! :rock:

I agree with everything you said

Heres my take. I was there in 78 when it came out. I was there in 07 when it came out. Being 11 years old in 78 the traumatizing factor was this…for me it was the first slasher movie. It spawned everything that came after it. The scary part to many of us back then was that it could have been anybody behind that mask. And the scary thing was that he stalked his prey. He waited 15 years. And now that they were in front of him he just personified evil.
I love the remake because it showed more of young Michaels personna and reason to snap, versus I see my sister doing something bad Im going to punish her for.
I think Tyler Mane was more terrifying as Myers because of his size and his rage but I think Zombie went after Jason with the size thing.
To me the remake is scarier but it will never compare to the original.
As for the masks…RZ’s are cool but to me there is no comparison :smiling_imp:

Very well said Unwannadon! Though I still think the 78 classic was more terrifying. I still always love hearing the wisdom from people older than me, gives it great perspective (my mom was pregnant with me when H1 1978 came out). I see what people are saying about Zombie’s Myers…but I still think it was too over the top. I’m more frightened by a monster we know almost nothing about lurking in shadows and behind clothes lines than standing in a living room with all the lights on. But like I said, there was some good stuff going on with Tyler Mane’s character. He was just too visible all the time.

To all the younger folks here: learn to respect the element of SUSPENSE!!!

Oh, and the mask…once again, uwannadon said it best. :smiling_imp:



If both were in front of me? Well, yeah, I’d say the RZ Myers, but that’s honestly not what Myers is about. It’s really more about the hunt, the stalking, of prey. The RZ Michael retains some of that stalker characteristic in RZH1, such as when he’s seen hiding in the shadows at Anne and Bob sneak into the Myers house to have a good time:

But, as a fan who actually saw the remake before the original, I must say his brutish unsubtley doesn’t scare me so much as it disgusts me. You don’t need blood and guts to make a scary movie. It’s how you set up the scares. That’s what creeped me out more about the original. There was no premise, no reason. In the remake, we have some hick kid with a vendetta against promiscuity and jerkwads because his mom’s a stripper and his stepfather’s an ass. Not nearly as scary to me as some random ordinary child who suddenly kills his sister some Halloween night.

As a big Hitchcock and Kubrick fan, I completely agree. Kids these days (and saying that as a 21yo myself) are far too impatient and eager to get to the blood and gore.

I really dont think it has anything to do with being impatient and eager to see blood and gore than its more so the directors of today. The directors of today are basically directly inspired by what transpired 20-30 years ago. Yes, suspense was driving the horror genre back then, but in the 80’s it became about the body count and how creatively you were going to kill the people in the film. There are successful horror films that are more story and suspense based horror films, because it is an incredibly effective tactic, that everyone enjoys. The Strangers was one of those for me, recently i have to say The Conjuring and Paranormal Activity have done it for me. I know that is probably going to bring up a debate, but that is just my opinion. Those are two movies that have virtually no gore and are suspense fueled films that were genuinely scary.

My point of this being, i dont think its the audience as much as it is the directors and writers. If they would take the time to create a scary and suspenseful horror film people, even young people of today, would watch and appreciate it.

It’s not totally their fault though. Look at all the crap we have these days. I may not score any points with this, but I’m personally not a fan of movies like Hostel and Saw. To me they are just a way to make people (the audience) feel completely helpless and hopeless. I like a good story where the good guy and the bad guy battle it out till the finish.
The main reply from the younger folks is that the older movies are “too boring”. That’s not all their fault for thinking that, but at the same time they…I don’t even know. It’s a matter of taste, but it’s also a matter of culture. Davy, you’re a rare exception to the rule and you have my respect for that!

For what they were going for, 78 is probably more creepier. But lookwise, the remake and H2 all the way. The mask design, the size of Myers, the creativity zombie put into the Myers look gets my nod.

But people comparing 78 to the remake, many should compare 78 to H2. I found Myers look in H2, the hoodie HOBO exposed mask,with that beard is one of the most terrifying Michael’s ever put on screen. The way he kills people is pretty damn brutal, the way he stabbed loomis to death was insane. So for me the remake slash H2 gets my vote

So I would say, 1978 look was more creepier
remake was more terrifying.

I find the consequences in the remake and H2 more severe, Laurie is more messed up, and she never recovers. Its one of the rare horror films, where the killer wins the war. As there is no happy ending for anyone, even if Myers dies. Laurie is either dead, like the unrated, or a mess like the theatrical release

I liked the remake but it didn’t scare me at all.
Mane’s Michael was far too over the top, relying too much on his size and brutality whereas the original Michael managed to be scary without looking like the hulk in a jumpsuit, mainly through clever camerawork/cinematography. What also strikes me is that if the original Michael wasn’t wearing his mask he could pass off for an ordinary guy, which makes it all the more clear that you don’t have to look like a monster to be one. I mean, if you saw someone the size of Mane walking down the road you’d automatically be wary of him, but according to the original it could be the seemingly-normal guy living just down your road that turns out to have homicidal tendencies.
Remake Michael’s back story was also unneeded and cliche, and ultimately made me sympathize with his character rather than be scared of him. In a lot of cases, including this one, little is often more.

To Zombie’s credit the mask was nice, but I’ll always prefer the stark white, ghoulish appearance of the original mask to the “just-pulled-out-of-the-waste-disposal” look that the remake had. Plus it doesn’t help that you see the mask right at the beginning of the freakin’ movie and throughout, whilst in the original you only see the mask properly towards the end and even then it’s mostly in shadows, so you rarely ever get a clear view of his face. It seems that Zombie tried to go for a more grotesque and torn-up look as opposed to the ghostly look that the original pulled off, and to me it appears more badass than scary. Mane seemed too much like Jason than Michael; too brutal, too clunky and nowhere near subtle enough.

In the end, blood and gore doesn’t scare me. It makes me feel queasy but it certainly doesn’t scare me.
Suspense, atmosphere and the unknown scares me, which is why, for me at least, the original has the scariest Michael.
(Remember, I don’t dislike this movie, in fact I found it quite entertaining. It just didn’t scare me like the original did.)

See, I’ve never felt sympathetic towards Zombie’s version of Michael. Some people may see Michael’s upbringing as some sort of reason behind why Michael does what he does, but I see it as simply adding fuel to an already raging fire. His upbringing just gives him an excuse to exercise his rage when the time comes. Young Michael is also a manipulative bastard. When he’s in the sanitarium, he pretends to be an innocent little boy who had an unexplained outburst of violence, when in reality he’s scheming to be released so he can continue killing. He soon realizes that he’s not going to get out so easily, which is why he retreats further and further away from that persona. The turning point is when he stabs the nurse. When Deborah takes his mask off and he lashes out at her, that’s the first time we see the REAL Michael. The one who wants nothing more than to kill and kill again. I feel nothing for him because HE feels nothing. Even his desire to “reunite” his family is a self-gratifying psychotic move. I feel absolutely no sympathy for him because he too is pure evil. Maybe not in the shadowy, phantomesque way Carpenter presented him, but in a way that is no less relevant.