so they are going to make michael myers a normal human now. https://news.avclub.com/danny-mcbride-says-michael-myers-won-t-be-immortal-in-h-1798261834
He is human, always was unless you count H6 as canon. I don’t see the problem
Hell yeah i think it’s awesome that their going that way!!!
I second this. It’s a lot scarier when it’s just a mortal man with no real motive. That’s a big part of why John Carpenter’s original worked to perfection!
I’d prefer it be ambiguous, and I’m sure it will be. It’s not like anybody in the movie is going to say, “Michael Myers is a completely normal human that will die if grievously wounded.”
That said, I prefer the version of The Shape that is smart enough to prowl and not really take any damage (until the end, at least) to the bullet sponge of the later films, so good news in any case.
Well it’s obvious he is gonna die this movie so yea he has to be human
I never got the idea that Michael was supposed to be an ordinary human. The dialogue and action of the first movie makes it very clear that Michael is meant to be evil incarnate. He’s not just some random psychopath, he’s the boogeyman. Remember, you CAN’T kill the boogeyman. You can stab it, shoot it, set it on fire, but it’ll keep coming until Halloween is over. Michael is very clearly meant to be representative of this evil side to what many consider a harmless holiday. He has disproportionate strength, the ability to hide in plain sight, and the ability to survive otherwise mortal wounds. Even if you don’t include H2, Michael STILL walks off 6 shots point blank into the torso. And that’s after being partially blinded and stabbed in the chest and neck. Honestly, I thought that taking that supernatural side of him away was one of the mistakes of the remakes. That they made Michael some lumbering giant of a man, psychotic as he was, but still mortal.
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Couldn’t have said it better davy!!! I don’t see how people think he was ever human, like did you not hear dr loomis say the whole movie that he isn’t a man, and referred to him as the evil.
I myself, have always considered H1 and H2, the only cannon Halloween films. Michael is a human, not a monster, afterall that was John Carpenter’s whole idea. John has stated, “To make Michael Myers scary, I had him walk like a man.” He is not supernatural… but… he also is not an “ordinary human”; John describes Michael as a “force.” Simple answer that I have thought for years, is that Michael is a man, but is also pure evil. Killing is his reason for being alive. The mystery about him is centered around Laurie. The reveal being that she is his sister (unless H2 cannon gets scrapped). Much like the adreniline that has caused real life people to lift heavy vehicles, in order to save a life, I feel Michael does the same in order to kill; and that is why he is seemingly unstopable. But with the new film coming, who knows… I just hope and pray that it doesn’t turn into an explanitory mess, like Rob Zombie created.
I don’t see why this is bad news.
“I think it’s much more horrifying to be scared by someone standing in the shadows while you’re taking the trash out,” McBride says, “as opposed to someone who can’t be killed pursuing you.”
I think this statement is spot on. It is more scary having someone standing in the shadows, or hiding behind a bush. That’s what Michael Myers is all about.
whether or not you think it’s scarier, it will make no sense if it follows the original, in the original michael is not a normal human whether you like it or you don’t so if they make this movie and he’s a normal human that breaks continuity
This is nothing but good news, this is exactly what makes Michael so creepy in the original, and it is exactly what he should be like in my opinion.
Saying this is what he should be, doesn’t mean that’s what he really is. After getting shot point blank 6 times, falling from the second floor, then walking away before Loomis can see his body shows he’s more than human.
I’m ok with it. I want Michael to be a psycho. IMO trying to make him more like Jason ruined his character.
Like CastleShape1978 mentioned, very well put by the way, I don’t really see him as a regular man, nor do I see him as supernatural. Since Carpenter didn’t really want much explained about the character at all it sort of makes our imagination wild, I believe the character was just hinted to be something beyond human and again the fact that he isn’t fully explained creates a different, a nameless phenomenon… to me that is what he “is”.
Not really sure why that’s bad news… I mean if they’re just flat out making The Shape mortal and dying like a normal human then yeah that’s a bad direction to take him in but if he’s just like classic (not cult of thorn) Michael then that’s good news in my book.
What Davey said.
Not making him seem less like some sort of caricature: that’s fine and good; but he is absolutely a supernatural entity, it’s not blatant in execution in the original (unlike say Jason Voorhees in parts VI and VIII), it’s subtle in execution to both make The Shape more relatable but also carry that fear of the unknown/fear of the dark/feat of the supernatural with him as well, he’s as much human as he is something beyond. The original Halloween carries out the concept like Session 9 did for ghosts and possession and The Blair Witch Project did with its’ phenomena or like the original Amityville Horror film did with its’ ghostly phenomena. These movies executed the supernatural in a way that made it believable and relatable. If Green and McBride are talented enough they can do what the original Halloween did, but to just say he’s some “normal” guy at this point is completely absurd, especially considering the ending. You want a good completely human killer film with a sense of evil and the unknown then you have The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, or on a more realistic note Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. Perhaps McBride just isn’t relating his thoughts well enough, which I hope is the case as I don’t want to see Carpenter’s later years wasted on another H:20.
Part of the reason why the supernatural aspect of the original worked so well was because they didn’t just blow their load out front, there were little hints here and there like Dr. Loomis’ speeches, then odd things happening like The Shape disappearing in plain site when Laurie is watching him and other such instances, getting into the locked car while Annie went back for the keys, doors opening and shutting and even locking sans wind or some other force, just weird things that if they happened to you you’d question just what was happening and have your hairs stand on end even as you try to brush them off as somethign explainable (though you cannot explain them), especially if they happened in succession over time and were not just one instance. Then the escalation of wounds he survives until he takes 6 revolver shots point blank and falls off a second story balcony and moments later disappears without a trace, that is the icing on the cake; that and Dr. Loomis’ final glance, followed by the Shape’s breathing increasingly present over revisiting places in the film while the main theme plays just brings all one’s fears to a head, that he was something more than human.
Carpenter said he wanted to get back to The Shape as some unknowable force when he was brought on as producer, so I hope he gives Green and McBride some advice and doesn’t just sit on his hands like he did for the terrible The Fog remake.
Let’s hope ignoring all of the sequels is a good start. Carpenter never liked H2 anyway (so why did he and Debra Hill write it…FOR PAY BACK) In my honest opinion, H2 sucks almost as bad as the rest of the sequels. I only except it because Carpenter and Hill and Cundy and company made it. But that was never really any good excuse. It just had some familiarity to it, but it really never made it a good movie. John and Debra wanted paid. And they were. So here we are, some 40 years later…can they finally figure it out? Can they either make a Halloween sequel that may even come close to the original or piss us off once again?? I guess we’'ll see next October…we shall see…
Their doing away with the thorn crap that ruined the other movies. H1 and H2 were great because it was just a man killing people, not some supernatural reason why…