Do We Have Crystal Clear Photos of All 3 H1 masks? Possibly! (An Observation)

I’ll just start with this classic photo of all three H1 masks at the wrap party and what we know (or think we know) about them.
We all know that the hero is on the far right, then (probably) the SY scene mask on the far left, and in the middle is the Stunt Blood Tears.

Semi-recently (last 4 years) this picture of JLC wearing a stunt mask surfaced:

This was quickly matched to the H2 Stunt Blood Tears by Brother K:

Then the mask in the JLC/SBT Pic was apparently matched to the “hallway stunt” mask:

But after combing through everything I had I started to become suspicious of whether or not the hallway B&W mask was actually the same as the JLC/SBT mask.

The first thing that caught my eye were the eyecuts. Look closely at them and you’ll see that they’re totally different. First we’ll compare the proper right eyecut on the hallway mask to the JLC/SBT mask.
Note: The eyecuts have been filled in with black to better show the shape and eliminate pixelation. I’ve also included the not filled in version.

The first difference to take note of is the entire shape. The B&W hallway mask seems to have a much more jagged cut, whereas the JLC/SBT mask is very clean cut. The next difference has to do with the cleanness of the cut. In the B&W hallway shot if you look at the top of the eyecut close to the nose, you notice a little notch where it comes down. You’ll notice on the JLC/SBT mask that it’s not there at all.

Here it is circled in red:

And compared with the JLC/SBT mask:

You’re probably thinking, “but it’s probably just stretched over to the side, altering the shape?”

To that I would say to look a bit closer! The photo from H1 shows the wearer giving it the “castle stretch” NOT stretching it sideways like Warlock. They eyecut is in fact different.

Now onto the proper left eyecut.

Same as above, it’s just completely off. A totally different shape. Also at the top close to the nose again, there’s a little notch taken out in the B&W Hallway mask eyecut that is not present on the JLC/SBT mask.

Now a counter argument to this claim that they are in fact different masks may be "what about the matching hairline where there is a chunk of hair missing, exposing the flesh colored scalp? And to that I would say 3 things.

  1. This would be from the removal of the sideburns.
  2. This detail is present on both of the stunt masks, as seen in the wrap party pics.
    Look closely here. You can see that both stunt masks are missing that same chunk from that same area.

  1. They are different size’s/angles.

When you look at the chunk missing in the B&W hallway picture and compare it to the missing section on the JLC/SBT mask you can see that they’re actually different in size and angle. The B&W Hallway mask’s missing chunk seems to be have a smaller area missing, more of an obtuse triangle shape. When you look at the JLC/SBT mask you see that it’s more of a right triangle shape.




By now anyone reading is probably wondering why I care if they’re the same or different. Because if they are different, that means we have a close photo of all 3 masks!

I’d love to hear any other thoughts on this. Just thought it was interesting and would want to share it :slight_smile:. Maybe I’m just looking too deep into it but I really don’t think they’re one in the same anymore.

Thanks for reading, guys!

Updates: One of my posts from another page:
Face reveal mask=the hallway mask=Left (or middle, read below) Wrap Party mask=SNL mask

So I’ll break down why I think the above.

1. The face reveal mask=Hallway mask.

Evidence #1: In the hallway photo, if you look at the top corner of the proper left eyecut and follow from the outer to inner eye, you see at right after the halfway point it slopes dramatically upwards but then comes back down to the end of the eyecut. Do the same in the face reveal scene and it is there.

Evidence #2: As you pointed out, the face reveal mask has 3 black dots on the face, one of which is to the proper left of the nose. The hallway mask shares one of those same marks, to the left of the nose.

2. Hallway mask/Face Reveal Mask=SNL mask (all shots on SNL are the same mask)

So this one is obvious, the hallway mask is seen in the shot of JLC by the chain link fence. But the mistake most people make is thinking that the mask in the bed with Jamie is the hero, when really it’s the same stunt mask as seen in the hallway/face reveal shots. The primary way that you can tell this is the lack of needle hole on the neck.

Primary Evidence:




and also, updating the main thread with this photo from Flamin Tramer:

We see two masks here. The Stunt Blood Tears from H2 on the left, the hallway reveal mask on the right.

We have definitively matched the left mask to the one Jamie wears in her photoshoot:

We have definitely matched the right mask to the hallway BTS shot:

So the age old debate that won’t die is are these two masks the same?:

When comparing their features they simply can’t be, which brings us back to “Flamin Tramers” photo. Look at the sideburns, the glue lines are different shapes and distances from the ears and eyes, a feature that would not change if they were the same!

What is that on JLC’s forehead in that pic? That always bugs me. Was that actually there when they took the picture?


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I believe it was there since it’s also on the SBT mask. Not sure what it is though.

It looks like ketchup to me, really. Now don’t ask me why they’d put ketchup on a mask, but that’s what it seriously looks like :laughing:

I’d love to get some comments on this :smiley:


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Amazing analysis man, very interesting to read! I believe you’re right, they don’t seem to be the same mask.

Quite interesting… This seems to point towards the fact that Don Post made the Hero, right? The blood tears and stunt mask have the obvious sideburn tears, and choppy eyecuts (except the blood tears mask has pretty decent eyecuts)

I’m really confused…

At the same time, the Hero mask has a completely different hairline than either masks, but its been discussed that the Hero came from a defected lot (fold on the forehead). It almost looks like the extra hair taken off the sideburns was intentional to make it look more like the Hero?

This really confuses me, some clarification would be nice

To be honest I don’t know what this points to in terms of who made what in terms of the masks for H1. That’s not something that I have fully thought out. I’ve always figured that the JLC/SBT mask was (if any were) the one made by DPS.

For what it’s worth I have contacted TLW with questions regarding how the masks came to be, if he remembers going to DPS, etc. I also got in touch with JLC and am waiting for clarification on the mask that she’s wearing in the photo as well as the ones from the SNL sketch.

Thank you, I’m glad you think so! I just think it would be awesome if they are in fact different because that would mean we had a front on shot of all 3 masks used in H1.

I don’t know if it has been digitally re-touched, but here’s that shot of JLC without that spot on the mask’s forehead.
For some reason, I was under the impression that the spot was actually on that particular copy of the photo when it was scanned.

Here’s a thread discussing that photo too:
https://forum.michael-myers.net/t/pic-of-jamie-lee-curtis-wearing-one-of-the-stunt-masks/53782/1
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If you scroll up to the top of the thread, where this mask is compared to the blood tears, the mark on the forehead matches. Could just be a coincidence

It’s all very mysterious, for sure!

I believe that one was retouched, but I’m not entirely sure. When K matched that to the SBT he marked the spot on the forehead as still being visible during the SBT scene. It’s also missing the watermark. I contacted the owner of this photograph collections and asked if there are any more that include this mask.

Nice! Keep us posted!

Will do!


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Can’t see the comparisons in that old thread (damn you photobucket) so I’m not sure why anyone would think they are the same stunt mask, they look distinctly different to me.

I have them saved, I’ll upload them shortly :rock:


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The blood tears/JLC mask has smoother eyecuts (to my eyes at least) and they are definitely more symmetrical than the hero. I don’t think it points to anything either way.

I think the hairline is the result of the deformities in the hero’s forehead at the time of filming, you can not only see the “fold” in these pictures but the sunken in areas.

It also looks to me like a section of the hairline, is kind of tentatively staying in place and kind of separated from the rest and looks to be fixed by whoever worked on the mask for H2.

The eye cut mismatch on the stunts has also puzzled me…

So which one is this?

The hair looks nothing like this:

But they sort of seem to have the same chunky eye cuts.

Possibly, who knows. I assume that the SY Stunt is the B&W BTS Hallway mask, a.k.a. not the JLC/SBT mask.
I think the difference in hair is just the way it’s styled. You can see (just barely) in the hallway shot that towards the back of the head the hair starts to get “mistier”, if you will. Similar to the SY stunt mask. Maybe they touched the hair up with more color and that’s what gave it the darker color? Look at the far side of that proper right eyecut, it has the same slope/angle to it. I made this i a couple minutes, so please pardon the sloppiness :laughing: :rock:.




I’m 100% convinced that they’re different masks (original post that started this thread). There was another thread where it was being discussed but it got deleted. Here’s a few of my posts from that (out of order from when they were posted) :smiley:.

I need to do up some diagram of my own to think on this, but…

The Schoolyard one does appear to have similar jagged eye cuts to the Hallway one. It also seems to have a similar mouth. Jamie/Blood Tears and Hallway seem to have pointier nose tips than the Hero. But J/BT’s eyes are the smoothest cuts of all even over the Hero so they can’t be Schoolyard/Hallways.

Pointy nose tip, bottom right?:

Similar nose tip, bottom right?:

I’m now doubting this is J/BT… but pointy nose? Less clear. It does have the weird mouth that Hallway does,

I think Jamie/Blood Tears is the most professionally done overall: Dark hair throughout, an even coat of paint which doesn’t appear to wear off by the time of Blood Tears (suggesting a varnish?). perfect eye cuts. The only flaw is the missing tuft. But taking the DPS work claim into account, IIRC the sideburns were yanked on set.

It’s almost like there’s four masks. But, Occam’s razor… need to somehow match Schoolyards hair to Hallway more definitively.