Agree entirely! Felt out of place for me as well.
I LOVED the movie!
As did I. Since my nephews got sick and I can’t take them out trick-or-treating I’m thinking of going to see it again tonight
When was the penis line said? Can’t remember it
When we first see Ray, Karen, and Allyson in their kitchen.
Wasn’t a fan of the bit when the kid says ‘Oh shit’ when Michael appears, that’s the only bit of comedy that bothered me at all in the movie.
You’re right. Kid should had been screamin for his life. Sounded really goofy. Even over here in Germany with german language it sounded so off.
that kid annoyed me in the film too, he wasn’t even funny
Saw it again yesterday and had most of the same issues as the first viewing. I wondered this specifically this time around: Laurie’s trauma is the focus of the movie and the podcasters and Sartain treat her as if she’s the only survivor of Michael’s '79 rampage. What about Tommy and Lindsay? Why doesn’t their trauma matter? Instead of a daughter and granddaughter we don’t know, why not establish that Laurie never married and that Tommy and Lindsay have also been deeply scarred by Halloween night in '78.
It also occurred to me that instead of Sartain manipulating The Shape’s escape, he should have escaped on his own upon learning he’s being taken to a real prison. Michael isn’t self-directed in this movie, operating because of some “secret, silent alarm.” Instead, he’s a pawn used by a villain who even has a mustache to twirl. If Laurie and later Tommy and Lindsay had spent decades getting Michael either moved to prison or sentenced to death, we can explore their trauma and Michael has a “reason” to escape.
I know it sounds like I’m criticizing this movie for not doing things as I would, but what I’m saying is that there were opportunities in the story as presented and in the idea of a direct sequel to Carpenter’s film that would have been leaner and more logical than what we did get. I still think it’s the second best sequel after H20, which isn’t saying much. I’m biased because I don’t think the original needs a sequel. That’s me, though. Glad lots of people are enjoying it and that we’re getting new fans to the franchise as well as new attention to Carpenter’s masterpiece.
All fair points my friend. The passion is real! Nothing will ever come close to the original, but it’s nice to have some new adventures in haddonfield, I just take them for what they are these days!
And yes, it brings in new fans and they will find their way to the original, and that’s all that matters really! Damn, and good thing too, as I can’t believe how many people still called me Jason tonight! Lol got to educate!!! Wild to me how many people confuse the two after all these years still!! Just goes to show, the majority is not in the same field of thought as us hardcore fans! Just baffles me though every year, “hey it’s Jason!!” Lol geez!!
Speaking of Jason, did you get your part 4 hood nightstalker? Did it turn out awesome?
I guess a little nod I didn’t realize. Saw the film again tonight and the gas station scene has a van labeled “Resurrection Church”
Also, for everybody saying Michael doesn’t kill kids and only did it because he was a threat; this is not the case. The kid was armed when he shot the doctor, but was frightened and driving away when Michael snapped his neck. Michael wasn’t in any danger, he jus chose to kill. Same with the random neighbor after he gets the knife. No reasoning behind evil
How do we know Sartain played a part in Michaels escape? Was there something I missed?
Just a quick question…
If some of you had read the script from Marcus Dunstan for Halloween Returns, would you have liked to see that movie instead of the new one ?
Same thing i ask myself all the time. Maybe Sartain lied when he told how Myers escaped, but i can’t remember anything else.
I was called Jason AND Freddy last night. No joke. C’mon people.
I’d like to see the opening filmed from that script.
I was The Shape last year and called Jason a number of times. Decided last-minute to go with my new Jason set up and no one mistook me for Myers. These darn kids today and their fancy Conjuring and Purge movies…
It’s not spelled out but it’s there:
1-Sartain mentions he doesn’t want Michael to be put in a prison more than once
2-he allows the podcasters to (unbelievably IMO) talk to Michael and bring him the mask, as well as trigger him with mention of Laurie.
3-He mentions that only Loomis got to see Michael “in the wild”
4-the bus driver/guards are dead or dying, yet Sartain is alive.
5-He confesses later to wanting to know what Michael feels when he kills and that he wanted to see what would happen when Myers and Laurie reunite
It all adds up to Sartain engineering Michael’s escape during the transfer, possibly by killing the driver and wounding the guards, then freeing the inmates.
I read the script just today again, with the new Soundtrack on, it was great.
Like you said, the opening with Myers on death row could have been interesting.
Also the parts where myers drives that black van at daylight and stalking the teens. And it gave me a feel that he is more lurking around, something i missed in the new one. But 2018 is ok, watched it 3 times in theatre 