Yes, indeed.
this thread is already open maybe even more then once … with that being said i got my tickets for tonight at 10:10
As expected, the re-release of H2 put TWC back almost 2 million, and it only made $475,000. STRONG talks are floating around that if TWC can’t secure finances and secure them soon, that the retainers held on Neve Campbell, Courtney Cox Arquette and David Arquette’s prelim contracts will expire and they’ll be free to do other projects, thus scrapping Scream 4 altogether.
Furthermore, Craven has yet to sign on the dotted line for this very reason, despite reports that he’s in 100%.
i dont want to further more your aggravation with H2 but it was released for 5 days i believe and your numbers are only from halloween night
and i could quote you a few times saying this wasent going to happen at all and no big name theaters would take part blah blah blah so 1st you arguee its not going to happen now you arguee you said it wouldnt be a success which one was it ?
if you dont like the movie, director, actors, producers … whatever you dont like you dont have to ruin it for others cheer up man geeze
Scream 4! didn’t even hear about that
Quote me all day my friend, I never said “never…” I said “I doubted it would happen” Regardless, it DID infact happen, and it still bombed beyond belief. It made $475,000 for the entire weekend. It’s already been pulled from 70% of the theaters it’s been re-released to. Even I thought it would make more than $475,000. So if it was below MY expectations, that should tell you something right there.
It was sitting in 60th place in the box office, and bounced up to an (…insert sarcasm here) incredible 15th place. The film dropped 78% in 48 hours, so theaters dropped it immediately.
And what is it with some of you kids telling me to cheer up? Why don’t you guys GROW UP and realize that the entire reason you WON’T see Michael Myers on the big screen again for years, is directly due to the crap fest(s) that were RZH/H2. Those 2 films put the entire franchise at risk, and now, we have nada and will continue to have nada.
So rejoice, praise, bow down to, or whatever else you decide to do in honor of the films that will now keep Halloween off the big screen for years. But it can’t change the facts as to why we’ll have no Halloween in theaters for the foreseeable future.
H2=Fail. Both attempts.
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Quote me all day my friend, I never said “never…” I said “I doubted it would happen”
The official website isn’t even promoting it what-so-ever, and with Halloween in 4 short days it’ll have to be the fastest promo/marketing job in history if they hope to have anybody in the theaters LOL!
Not gonna happen
Not gonna happen as in not gonna be a success. And it wasn’t. And at the time of my initial post, it WASN’T on the official website. Anything else LOL?
So, keep on quoting kids. The movie bombed BOTH times and it’s the main reason you won’t get another Halloween for a long while.
Please change your attitued, theres no need to call people, kids, boys etc… pushing nearly 40 I don’t think I can call myself a kid
From another thread…
The OP was asking for info on the re-release, not about facts and figures…
This was Shows replies…
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- LOL! Yeah? We’ll see about that. I was at the movies twice this week and weekend in NY, and was at big name theaters and saw ZERO ad’s or promotion for it at all.
Which was wrong. Since there have been ads for it. There was ads all last week in TX.
2. The official website isn’t even promoting it what-so-ever.
Which was wrong. Since it was offically posted on the Halloween site.
3. And furthermore, to do it at all takes even more distribution, marketing and promo money that TWC doesn’t even have to spend. I’d be surprised if it gets re-released at all.
Which was wrong. Since it looks like they did have some money for ads, and it is being re-released… even if it did fail.
like i said before if you dont like it thats fine its your opinion but what a movie did in the past i dont think it would have anything to do with another movie (sequel) by a new director in a different direction or else you wouldnt of had another halloween after H6 OR H8 but yet you had RZH & RZH2 also you have H3D somewhat in the works so what are you talking about … if you dont like it fine you made your point but you dont have to continue to rain on other peoples parade … one more thing why do you assume when someone disagrees with you they are kids
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I already stated the fact that WHEN I MADE MY INITIAL POST, all of the things you tried to toss in my face, were infact NOT posted on the official page. So do more re=reading before you state a fact that was already made Serial Killer. You copied and pasted my last post for nothing, you completely proved my point for me.
What you copied was from over a week ago, and when I made that post, what I posted here was infact correct. And I equate simple, unnecessary spelling errors that could be avoided with the use of spell check, to the actions of kids who can’t spell. Sorry for the confusion, but I’m sure you can see my point there.
- Moviemaniac, if you don’t see/understand how when a movie bombs at the box office it hurts further films in said series, then you need not participate in this discussion. TWC don’t feel like losing any more cash on Halloween at this point, and the last film is the main reason why. If you need any clarification as to how I get my info in this business, simply do a search in this very forum under my screen name. My sources are as close as you can get on this forum in terms of TWC and their current state of affairs.
Thanks
ok this is going in a completely different direction lets just end this thread
but here are a few numbers for you before we do and they can also be found by a quick search and if your theory was correct the series would of ended along time ago
10/17/1978 Halloween - $47,000,000
10/30/1981 Halloween II $25,533,818
10/22/1982 Halloween 3: Season of the Witch $14,400,000
10/1/1988 Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers $17,768,757
10/13/1989 Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers $11,642,254
9/29/1995 Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers $15,126,948
8/5/1998 Halloween: H2O $55,041,738
7/12/2002 Halloween: Resurrection $30,259,652
8/31/2007 Halloween $58,269,151
8/28/2009 Halloween 2 $32,639,363
besides the original and H20 the 2 highest grossing of the series
Yes, but what you clearly aren’t taking into consideration, is the fact that some of those numbers were great for their time period(s) Not every film can bank ‘Titanic’ numbers, if that’s what Hollywood expected, we’d all be seing nothing but “Epic” films at our local Cinema’s.
TWC were and continue to be SEVERELY in the hole, and the bombing of H2, set the ‘Halloween’ brand back several years. It’s not so much what the films took home, but how much cash the studios have/don’t have at their disposal.
It’s never been worse than it is now, at this moment for Halloween. Believe that.
i understand what your saying man but your blaming it on H2 im guessing because you didnt like it … it cost 15 mil to make the movie and it grossed a little over twice as much … if it didnt lose money how can you say this is what broke the bank over at TWC … im not saying your wrong i just think your not looking at the full picture you make it sound like it was another waterworld
[quote=“thewholefknshow”]2) Things.
- I already stated the fact that WHEN I MADE MY INITIAL POST, all of the things you tried to toss in my face, were infact NOT posted on the official page. So do more re=reading before you state a fact that was already made Serial Killer. You copied and pasted my last post for nothing, you completely proved my point for me.
What you copied was from over a week ago, and when I made that post, what I posted here was infact correct. And I equate simple, unnecessary spelling errors that could be avoided with the use of spell check, to the actions of kids who can’t spell. Sorry for the confusion, but I’m sure you can see my point there.
Actually you’re missing my point… I’ll give you the fact you didnt not see the post on the offical Halloween site before you posted on here… but this what you said about other things to do with the re-relase of H2.
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You said there is ZERO ad’s or promotion for it at all… which was wrong as they where showing ads here in TX for 3 full days before you even posted that.
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You then said it takes even more money for distribution, marketing and promo. Money that TWC doesn’t even have to spend… which again was wrong as they had been been doing promos, ads and marketing for the re-release a full week here in TX… so therefore they had some money.
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You said I’d be surprised if it gets re-released at all… which was wrong again, as we all know it was re-released… even if it did fail.
I’m sure you can see my point
Moviemaniac,
For the last time, do your research. The film cost almost 40 million to make, the shooing budget was only 15 million, but the entire budget (According to Bob and Harv themselves) was pushing 40 million. It has only made 35 million, and that includes the measly 2.3 it made overseas.
Everyone on this section of the boards was stating how the overseas take would basically catipult the gross over the the entire budget, which it didn’t do.
Then they said the re-release would do it, and that didn’t happen either. $475,000 is not a success, especially when they spent an additional 2 million to re-release the movie. The re-release has already been pulled from over 78% of the theaters that re-released it anyway.
This film bombed. Domestically, overseas and definitely on the re-release. I’m not going to get into all this again, search the other threads on this topic for the details. H2 put the entire series on the shelf, end of story.
in fairness to the H2 “being pulled” i heard it was ONLY released again for Halloween weekend.
no body expected it to be in the theatre for weeks on this rerelease.
and as far as RZ halloweens putting the series on the shelf…
compared to H3 - H8, i would rather take the Rz Halloweens and be done with it then to rather have a resurrection type Halloween every other year.
if the series was ever going to end it wouldve ended after the hardships of H5 followed by H6.
i am 30 years of age, old enough to have been brought up with the classics yet young enough to open-mindedly evaluate and enjoy the talent and change of the evolution of movies and music.
I heard until November 5th. Doesn’t matter really, the re-release didn’t do as expected (…just liike the film on it’s original release) and for the non-believers, so be it. But the reason H3D/H3 is on the shelf has NOTHING to do with Lussiers schedule LOL!
TWC doesn’t want to do it at all right now, they have zero interest in Halloween as a brand for the foreseeable future. They’re putting all of their eggs in the Scream basket right now.