I think everyone pretty much misses the point of Halloween 3

John Carpenter and Debra Hill orginally intended on killing Michael Myers after Halloween 2. John Carpenter has even come out and confessed at one point that he’s never even seen the others that weren’t his own. I don’t know if that’s still true today but the fact of the matter is that you have to take Halloween 3 for what it is and nothing more. You have to seperate it from Michael Myers and look at it as a movie all it’s own. Okay, maybe the robots were a little corney but it’s still a good movie by itself. The only reason that Michael came back was because the fans wanted him to. So here comes Halloween 4: The Return Of Michael Myers even though he was supposed to die. John Carpenter covered all his tracks with making sure Michael couldn’t come back from having his eyes shot out (which to this day I’m still scratching my head as to how he grew his eyeballs back) and burning him to nothing but ash really. So lets give Halloween 3 the respect it deserves. It was however, the original road that the Halloween saga was supposed to go down.

True :slight_smile:

It’s an alright film, but maybe they should have titled it Halloween Night or something else to distance itself from the Halloween franchise…unless it was supposed to be a new direction. I’m not sure what the intentions we’re with part 3 but your comment “It was however, the original road that the Halloween saga was supposed to go down.” makes me wonder.

I have always felt that if it had been released as Season of the Witch it would have been fine with the audience. I loved the film or do now I should say. When I first saw it I just thought it was ok. The idea of doing the series more like the Twilight Zone series was what I thought they were going to do also but since HIII pretty much was a flop at the time and of course Mustapha’s love for Myers ended that idea and back came Michael like a phoenix rising from the ashes shot out eyes and all.

what i think h3 was supposed to be was acording to the story line michael was in a comma for 10 years and halloween 3
was supposed to show what else happened during the 10 years michael was in a comma. but thats how i look at it.

yeah,i still don’t like Halloween 3…well,I watched it like 3 years ago and i didn’t like it at all.Mabye i will give it another chance:)

I love Halloween 3. It probably has the best ‘Halloween/October feel’ out of all the movies, in my opinion.

It has a refreshing plot, classic 80’s themes and an awesome cast. One of the best in the franchise without a doubt.

i completly agree if you take halloween 3 as a movie and and not a michael myers movie than its pretty much a really good
sci-fi horror movie.

I respect and like it for what it is. In my opinion he never should have called it HALLOWEEN 3 as EVERYONE expected MICHAEL MYERS to be in it. Instead he just should have called it HALLOWEEN SEASON OF THE WITCH and excluded the 3 which leads you to believe it is actually a continuation of the series. That is my only beef with it.

Most of us here are into H3. I am a huge fan of it mostly because it’s the last one in the franchise to have that “look” that the first 2 had.

One of my favorite things about halloween III is JC’s music, that schiet is creepy and the score reminds me of his remake christine. The movie is original in itself, i mean hell it could have sucked like the stuff or chopping mall, but the story was interesting and a terrifying plot, to kill a majority of the children all over the country, possibly outside the us? Thats creepy too. Also, i loved how they conal cochran made a reference to the real tradition of halloween, how samhain is really pronounced, that was his motive.I remember being mad when i was a kid that it didnt have michael in it, but now i get what they were trying to do, and i think they did it well. Michael was supposed to be dead. But i get AR-Ballistic’s point too, they could have cut the III out of it.
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It may not be a Shape movie but it’s still a great mask movie.
The story was original. The music and overall feel follows the first two just fine. Those robots do actually remind me of the shape. A movie I could see over and over.

Halloween III Season of the Watch is simply a fun movie. I must admit that I was surprised when I first watched the film, but I was immediately intrigued by it. Tommy Lee Wallace did great job directing the film, and ya just can’t help liking Tom Atkins character

Dino De Laurentis wanted to do another Halloween right after Halloween II’s opening weekend. Joe Dante was interested in a Halloween III and suggested to John and Debra that they should talk to Nigel Kneale, who at the time was writing a ‘Creature from the Black Lagoon’ remake for Universal. They wanted to see if anyone had any ideas for a Halloween story that did not involve any characters from Halloween or Halloween II, indeed there were NO NEW story’s to tell; and all you could do was do exactly what Friday the 13th’s were doing…xeroxing the same story over and over and making the sequences gorier and gorier.

Nigel had a great story idea but his first draft was not successful so Tommy Lee was brought in for some help. Nigel refused to go along with any of Tommy’s input and basically Tommy told Nigel to consider what the audience would expect and that is when Nigel said “I don’t care about the audience.” At that point Tommy took over the script and Nigel took his name off the script.

What Carpenter was trying to do was expand the concept about Halloween. But the audiences hated it and everyone got mad at Carpenter and thought he was destroying their franchise. From 84 thru 1987 the original producers were trying to bring Myers back and they wanted Carpenter attached in some way. Carpenter himself did not want to get pigeon-holed into being only a horror director/creator. Carpenter kept ideas fresh about ‘Myers’ and went toward a supernatural ghost kind of stories and did not want to do what they’ve done before in the previous ‘Myers’ movies. Carpenter hired several good writers and handed in several ideas himself. The original producers were very unhappy with the ideas and they sued him because they felt he was hurting the Halloween property. In 1986/87 the Halloween rights were taken out of Carpenter’s hands and a Halloween 4 went into production in 1987/88 with out him.

Money brought ‘Myers’ back…not the fans.

Wow, they sued him just for that? :astonished:
I’d watch the FOG over any of the sequals after H3.

Carpenter and Hill became rights holders when they came on board for Halloween II. Mind you, everyone had to be on board to take Carpenter’s rights away and the includes Debra. I remember reading in Fangoria all about this and the pressure John was getting from Debra because he knew his name was going to be attached to it in some way and he saw the obvious…Halloween’s sequels were going to hurt his career. Many people in America still think he has something to do with every Halloween produced. And sadly, the producers made it that way.

Is that why they broke up? :open_mouth:
Guess that’s personal…lol
I wouldn’t blame him for not wanting to make another sequal :neutral_face:

Halloween 3 had “Halloween” in the title to show everyone that Michael Myers was DEAD.

Carpenter and Hill were dating/friends. Adrienne Barbeau was married to director John Carpenter from 1979 to 1984. The two met on the set of his 1978 TV movie, Someone’s Watching Me! I read that Debra was heartbroken during the making of ‘The Fog.’

I’ve often said that in reality only the first 3 1/2 Halloween movies matter, after that we the fans just WANT them to matter.

Halloween I and II were obviously classics.

Halloween III was a great movie but as many have already said it would have been received much better had it simply been called “The Season of the Witch” and left the “Halloween III” off the title.

Halloween 4 was a good movie to a degree. The first half was better than the second but it was still a decent entry.

Since then there have been the not-so-bad (H20), the so-so (Halloween 6, RZ’s Halloween), the bad (Halloween 5, Resurrection) and now the absolutely awful (H2).