Now, having seen H2 a while back and then seeing it in the theaters I felt personally that the path taken with this was, well great… BUT the key element to Myers in my opinion has been getting more and more diluted with each installment. The true gold in Myers is not the brutality (although I must admit I do like it) but the presence of him. The watching, the stalking, the feeling of absolute peril.
I haven’t felt it since 1980. (H20 had a bit of the element though)
IF a film were to capture this again… COULD it revive the legend? Would you want something like this to happen?
The problem is today’s majority audience. If someone were to make a Halloween movie that was almost exactly the same as the original in terms of pace, atmosphere, and scripting, most would probably think it was too slow and boring, then they would tell their friends “It only had like 3 scary parts, the rest of the time Michael just stood there.” Everyone here (including me) would love it, but studio’s are after in-your-face scary, as proven by EVERY other remake (including Halloween’s) and other horror movie in theaters today. The studio’s want teen audience members, and they don’t think they’ll get that with a slower, thought-out pace and atmosphere, they want douchebag teens getting killed in violent bloody ways. Hell, even Carpenter seems to have lost his touch, as has most every other director of classic horror still working these days. We’ll never have a 1978 Halloween again.
Well… I feel that the character himself is something salvageable… to be honest.
As hard as it is for some to believe. I’ve felt that classic horror can still attract people, even in this day and age.
I think something similar to the first, or the same feel, could be done with just the right amount of what’s needed to pull in an audience of today’s youth…
Studios want audiences with disposable money, most teens have disposable money, and unfortunately most teens have joined the Church of Douchebaggery. Believe me, even though I do love Zombie’s movies, I’d much rather have a Halloween film that captured the suspense and mystique of the original.
well said. you are exactly right we will never have another 1978 Halloween again simply because this is 2009. times have changed and music and movies are just two examples of how time naturally evolves things. the 1978 Halloween was hardcore for its time. a time when strong violence and gore were not welcomed or allowed to be shown on the big screen or television. if john carpenter had never made Halloween until 2009 it would be a much different film than what we got in 1978.
Halloween 4 has nothing to do with H1 or H2 in my eyes. H4 - 6 were in a continuity of their own. H20 finally brought us back to the original storyline…thank god.
Well if you look at “The Strangers” it has a very Halloween 78 feel to it in some ways. Its all about Stalking and scaring the victims. THAT director is who I would want for H3, while keeping the storyline going. Bring back Michael and have him and Laurie go to town ON the Town with Brackett caught in the middle, no more ghosts though please!
Movie studios now a days don’t really care about suspense now a days. It’s all about in your face gore. To have a good horror movie now a days it has to have the following things, 1) Blood: It needs to make the viewer squirm in their seats. It also has to have mutilations of some sort (Pretty much Saw and Hostel) as it creates a series of uneasiness. 2) Language: Has to have at least 10-15 f-words in there somewhere as well as every other word you wouldn’t say around your mom. I suppose it creates some sort of dread and helplessness for the main character to throw about 5 of these at the killer in a minute. 3) Sex: Needs at least a topless shot, depends on what kind of horror movie it is though. If it’s something with a slasher then there will most likely be one maybe two sex scenes before the couple get’s killed. Also can’t have a movie without a girl that’s busty. If it’s torture like Hostel then it doesn’t really need it as the violence will overweight it but heck just throw one of more in there for good measure.
I’d much rather have a movie that’s slow and build’s dread than something along the lines of Friday the 13th (nothing against F13th). The only movie I can think of that’s come close to that is the strangers. Sure the couple did some of the most idiotic things I’ve ever seen but it was still creeps and I loved it for that. It kind of had that old Halloween feel to it. Seems as if every few months or so we get a horror movie along the lines of this though will the blood movie far and wide. Not saying that a movie with a lot of blood is bad because I loved the Hills have eyes and RZH. I think for a movie to be good it needs a line that has a bit of stalking and a bit of blood such as TCM 2003. It didn’t have a lot of blood but it had enough to create uneasiness. Studios seem to care for jump scares more often as well. While there’s nothing wrong with it as it gets the audience pumped up but it’s something that works best in moderation.
Studios now a days know that if a horror movie comes out that kids and teens will go sneak in which results in more money for them. Personally I think the theater’s need to be stricter with the R rating and keep an eye out for this. Nothing against teens but I can’t stand it when 13-15 yr. olds get in and talk the whole movie.
That’s my two cents though
I’d want another Halloween as long as it met certain criteria…the look of the SHAPE-white mask/coveralls; autumn setting; brutality and a good serious script. No “tongue in cheek” horror or “fun” horror like MBV or F13 (not saying I dont like those-just dont want a Halloween in that vane).
Also just to address gore and horror…guys extreme gore; f bombs; etc isnt something new. The late 70’s and early 80’s dished out movies that make Hostel look like Sesame Street. You either like the gore in your films or not. I tend to like a happy medium and that being said I want my films to EARN their R rating. No pg-13 shit.
“The Strangers” wasn’t suspensful…well it was for a while until the characters became so idiotic that any attempt to ring some tension or empathy out of the film proved to be a moot point.
Dude, the thing about it is that we’ve seen the “creepy stalking Michael who isn’t constantly brutal” in more than a few movies. It’s a tired routine. This is a new day and age with a new fanbase. We have the old movies to watch on DVD, and if you didn’t like Rob Zombie’s take on Halloween, forget they exist. Just go watch the originals some more.
Both fans and haters are annoying. Point is, we saw the Michael Myers everyone still favors from 1978 to 2002. The same old 2D character thing has worn out its welcome as far as I’m concerned. The franchise needed a reboot.
Believe me, even though I do love Zombie’s movies, I’d much rather have a Halloween film that captured the suspense and mystique of the original.