JC "Laurie Knife"

Okay, so this is my first thread and I know that a lot people who read this are going to be rolling their eyes at the topic I’ve chosen, but please hear me out. Now I know there are a ton of threads regarding the knife that Michael used in the first Halloween, which isn’t a particularly easy thing to discuss seeing as how (presumably) several knives were used: first there’s the poster knife (that mean-looking curved thing), then there’s the knife that Michael uses to kill Judith in the opening scene, and then finally there’s the butcher knife that he uses throughout his killing spree later on in the movie, and it’s been speculated that there’s been several of the latter.

Now, many people assume that it’s a Lamson he uses, and seeing as how that was the knife of choice for many Myers fans I decided to go with the general consensus and order one of JC’s “H1 Lamsons”, as that was the knife that many people seemed to consider the most accurate. However, I ended up purchasing a JC knife second-hand along with a mask stand from another user of M-M.Net, but upon comparing it to other Lamson photos on the site I soon realized that what I’d received was not actually an “H1 Lamson”, but instead what JC liked to call his “Laurie Knife”, a replica based on the scene where she stabs him in the neck with a needle and a close-up shot reveals the knife is clearly not a Lamson.

Admittedly this surprised me a little because I was expecting the original “H1 Lamson”, which (from what I’ve seen) is considered by most to be THE definitive replica.
However, upon comparing it to various other scenes in the movie I’ve come to the conclusion that Michael didn’t use a Lamson at all, and in my opinion the “Laurie Knife” is actually the most accurate 1978 replica even when taking into account his entire murder spree (I apologize if I’m sounding biased right now, by the way).
Look at it this way; the first time you see the knife properly is when Michael pins Bob to the door. Check out the thick, curved handle with the beak-like tip:

Now here are some photos of both my “Laurie Knife” and a Lamson:

The “Laurie Knife” was specifically designed to resemble the blade from the knitting needle scene, so I won’t go into detail on that, but how about the part where he drops the knife in the closet? (Please excuse the dreadful quality; I had to fiddle around with the screen settings in order to snag a half-decent photo)

Again, note the curved handle and pointy-ish tip.
After seeing this knife being used during Bob’s death, the needle scene and the closet scene, I think it’s safe to say that this was probably the same knife used to kill Annie too, even though it’s barely visible behind the car window.

So in conclusion (and taking into account JC’s claim that the blade in the needle scene was most definitely NOT a Lamson) I believe that the most screen-accurate replica is the “Laurie Knife”, although if you still side with the Lamson then that’s your opinion and I completely understand if that’s the replica you find the most accurate, remember that these are just my personal thoughts. Also, I don’t want to give the impression that I’m bashing the “H1 Lamson” in any way; it’s still an unbelievable work of art that I would love to own one day, it’s just that I think the “Laurie Knife” resembles the screen-used blade a little more closely, but then that’s still only a matter of opinion.
It still doesn’t solve the mystery of what brand the “Laurie Knife” is actually based on, though…

(By the way, I apologize in advance if this thread is considered to be clutter; I’ve never posted a thread on this site before and it’s a subject I’m legitimately curious about. I’d also like to thank FaceOff and JC_70 for giving me the opportunity to own such a stunning replica, which now stands pride of place on my bedroom shelf.)

Very good for a first post. It’s hard to say if it were a lamson or not. The handle matches that of an F Dick butcher knife pretty close but there is no way to know for sure because so many off-brand companies have produced similar looking knives over the years
-Connor

The 1963 knife to me looks like it’s a 19" knife. JMO.

The Bob death scene could’ve been a prop knife? Scroll down in this thread and view it…
http://www.michael-myers.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=103983&start=15

The Lamson is fairly close. I own several copies. As the Dexter knifes are. I’ve not seen many curved handles like that on chefs knifes. I collect them. There’s different models, etc, etc… I have chefs knifes that are 20" big. Also the Deerfield label is also Lamson as they merged. Sometimes they’re unmarked.

Looking at some photos of Myers though… I think that they used various knifes. Again, JMO.

I own a 18" F. Dick. That sounded bad. Haha! But, yeah, you’re right. Their models do have the curved handle. Some have good eye lids as I call them, too. :drinkers:

It’s nice to see one of my “Laurie Knives” surface! As for what’s accurate or actually used in the first film… it appears to be a guessing game. However, I have never seen an actual “Lamson” logo on the blade or handle of the screen used knife or knives. But it’s obvious that the the knife in the '78 plot is not shaped like the typical Lamsons that we see today… the handle is much different. In my opinion, the “Laurie knife” is most accurate because it’s what we actually see, but the brand of the knife still remains a mystery. I collect vintage Lamsons and Dexters, and have spent many hours searching ebay for these knives, but I have never seen what I believe to be the same style knife as the one used in H1. My Laurie knife might not be a dead ringer for the screen used, but much closer than a Lamson and good enough for most! Cool post man, and it’s great to see your enthusiasm here! Enjoy the knife!

:drinkers:

JC

Thanks :slight_smile:
I’ve had a quick look at several images of the F. Dick and I do agree that the handles are strikingly similar, although I couldn’t locate any photos of a vintage F. Dick butcher knife except this one:

The blade is a little off but the handle does look very accurate, so it is entirely plausible that there was an F. Dick butcher knife used in the movie. Just a slightly different kind to to the one pictured above.

That’s also a big possibility; to be honest I never gave a thought to the fact that some of them may be props :blush:
However, take a look at this thread here: https://forum.michael-myers.net/t/poor-bob/35978/1
It discusses a revealing mistake in Bob’s death scene, that if you look at the stove to the right you can see the reflection of Bob pinned to the door. However, the blade is clearly just tucked under his arm, so there’s every possibility that they were still using the same knife. But again, it’s just a theory, and I certainly don’t find it difficult to believe that there was more than one knife used during filming :slight_smile:

Thank you :slight_smile:
When I first joined the site it surprised me at just how debatable certain aspects of Michael’s costume are, and some questions just can’t be answered no matter how closely you scrutinize the footage because there’ll always be another piece of evidence that suggests otherwise. I am so glad that you decided to design a knife by the way you saw it in the movie, and for me it’s the perfect replica :smiley:

As I recall from one of the Making-Of docs (possibly the Bio one that premiered a few years back), the actor that played Bob stated that it was a real knife and it was tucked under his arm to give the appearance of being stabbed. The other shots of the scene were also created through budget effects. Remember, the whole movie was made on a budget of 325,000 (in proportion of this, the remake had a budget of 15 mil.), so I highly doubt any props were machined for this little indy film. The shot of Bob being “lifted up” was actually Bob raising himself up standing on a crate while the shot of Bob’s feet were done with the actor hanging from a 2x4 with two crew members lifting him up outside the shot.

There is a 17 1/2 in unmarked Lamson on ebay with this style handle, however there is also a very large over 20" F Dick chefs knife on there too, this thing scares me just to look at it, but not going for it at 350.00! Y’all look at them and see what y’all think.

I’m expecting a knife to arrive today that looks very close but it is unmarked.

This one, Lamson? http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-Vintage-F-Dick-Germany-Carbon-Steel-18-5-Chefs-Knife-w-Ebony-RAZOR-SHARP-/360823706844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5402c4d4dc Hmmm, it actually reminds me a lot of the Young Mikey knife:




I’ve also considered this, however I’ve not ruled out the possibility that the knife just LOOKS bigger because it’s being held by a child: http://s20.postimg.org/z6b12fxqj/Halloween35th_5.png

No there is one I think antique was part of the listing, referring to the one he had later in the movie. 350 dollars for it.

Thank you for that photo. Most photos have the knife cut out of the photo. To me that’s a 19" Lamson or a 20" LFC. I can tell. I own 3 of each. I compared one of my 19" Lamsons to it and it’s dead on. The two 17" wasn’t. I wish I could take photos of my knifes. I m using a iPad though. No camera connection. :rolleyes:

I had seen that one awhile back. I doubt he sells it for that. The condition of it isn’t the best. I’ve seen better go for less.

Forgot. The 18" F. Dick you mentioned. I own one of the same model. I’d of bought that one off or Ralph if the top wasn’t all f’d up on it. It has all the right look. However, the top of the blade is trashed.

One other thought on the knife, Jamie lees clothes were purchased at jc penny for the movie, same as the jc penny Big Mac coveralls, is it possible that the knife came from cutlery kitchen part of jc Penney also? If it did, could anyone find out what cutlery penney’s carried oh say 1975- 1978? In other words does anyone have a penny’s catalogue from that period to investigate? Just a thought, maybe a little far fetched, but I know we would all like to put the great knife debate to bed. Lol

Good idea.

It’s possible it could be multiple knives. In the scene where he cuts Laurie’s arm, she had just passed bob and he still had the knife in his chest.

Hi guys,

I am new to this website, big fan of the halloween movies and always fancied getting a replica knife and mask, now I have a man cave my wish Coming true to obtain these items and have he space to display, anyway I recently ordered a replica knife signed by Jamie lee Curtis, nick castle, john carpenter of a company called celebrity Authentics, when I get it I will post some pics for opinions on how accurate it is.

Hey Snedders, welcome to the site :slight_smile:
A replica knife signed by Jamie Lee Curtis, Nick Castle and John Carpenter sounds awesome, I’m looking forward to seeing the pics. Have you set your sights on a particular mask yet?

Thanks, should have the knife within a few weeks.
As far as mask I really don’t know, I will have to do some research first or if anyone can point me in the right direction
I am looking at one on eBay for sale here in the uk. It is a AGH night stalker # 15 mask. Is it a good yin ?