I saw Zombie’s Halloween II in the theater when they re-released it last Halloween.
I really didn’t like it much. Plus the whole last reel of the movie got messed up in the projection. The picture jumped, so the upper half was on the bottom and the bottom half on top with the frame line going right through the middle. It was almost impossible to see what was happening. I had to watch the ending of the movie online when I got home.
I didn’t like it much, and never planned on seeing it again.
I racked up some bonus points on a Colombia House DVD account, and decided to spend the points and get Zombie’s Halloween 2 Unrated as my free DVD.
Just watched it the other night.
The Director’s Cut Unrated was alot better than what I saw theatrically.
I still have a few gripes, like how did Myers survive the gunshot to the head, how did he know where Annie Brackett lived, etc.
But the movie played out alot better, and Zombie’s commentary was pretty damn good.
I liked this movie alot better than Zombie’s first Halloween.
I had a double feature on Saturday night where I watched them both back to back.
yeah alot of the unrated version focused more on laurie going crazy and the crumbling of annie/lauries friendship.
If there is one thing i would change most would be the coroner yelling fuck about 15 times. There is no reason and i mean no explaination to why anyone would say that, that much. It like he even stopped to think about it before contiuning on again…
I liked the unrated version up until the ending. Michael yelling “die” before killing Loomis just felt too goofy for me. I liked the theatrical ending with Laurie surviving and carrying on Michael’s madness. Seeing her put the mask on was one of my favorite moments in the entirety of the series. The idea of Laurie picking up where her brother left off is very intriguing and would have been something completely original for the series.
I’d love to see an H3 set years from the end of H2 where Laurie is the antagonist.
I liked the unrated version up until the ending. Michael yelling “die” before killing Loomis just felt too goofy for me. I liked the theatrical ending with Laurie surviving and carrying on Michael’s madness.
I liked this ending where Laurie dies. But I wish Zombie would have taken out Laurie and the white hallway at the end. It made sense in the theatrical ending, because she was still alive wearing the Myers mask, and she was probably in a hospital at the end. But in the alternate ending when she gets killed, the white hallway with Laurie, Sheri Moon, and the horse didn’t make sense anymore. But then, maybe it never did?
Weird that you say you had a double feature of H1 and H2, I JUST had one of those, it ended about 20 minutes ago. Anyway I agree with you. The first time I saw H2 I wanted to love it, but I couldn’t. Then I saw it again in theaters and loved it. I never understood why people hated it after that, I loved the storyline and the deaths. It was amazing. And the DC ending is better in my opinion, when you listen to the commentary it makes sense why its better.
And I like your point when you said “How did he know where Annie Brackett lived.” I never thought about that. But then again, there were a lot of plot holes in H1 too. How did he know what Laurie looked like? But anyway, glad you liked it.
You’re absolutely right. The inclusion of the white hallway with Zombie’s Director’s Cut ending makes no sense whatsoever. With Laurie dead it becomes, what? The afterlife? Limbo? Some random, undefined space? At least with the theatrical ending it was either inside of her psychosis (much like Michael’s delusional vignettes throughout the movie) or she was just in a hospital.
It’s like Rob didn’t think his “director’s cut” ending through all the way.
I’m sure the white hallway makes sense to him otherwise he wouldn’t have left it in but it doesn’t really “click” with me.
There is a simple reason for the hallway scene and I feel it belongs in both versions for this 1 reason. Laurie transforms before your eyes in the movie becoming more and more like Micheal with each vision she has. Now take yourself back to the opening of the movie where young Michael is describing his dream/vision of his mother in a white hallway dressed all in white with a white horse. When Laurie is in the white hallway and sees her mother dressed all in white standing next to the white horse she has completed her transformation and is EXACTLY like her older brother. Weather its her dying vision as in the directors cut or a vision she’s having in the hospital in the theatrical edition its the opening vision of young Michael and the closing vision from Laurie being the same that bring the movie full circle. YUP YUP
she has completed her transformation and is EXACTLY like her older brother.
Why would she be EXACTLY like Michael?
Zombie’s films do not deal in the supernatural.
Michael turned out the way he did from the abuse he got.
Laurie had a good life.
I don’t buy that.
Laurie transforms before your eyes in the movie becoming more and more like Micheal with each vision she has.
How? Does she murder anybody?
Remember how she deals with knowing she is his sister? She goes to a party and gets drunk.
If anything, she read Loomis’s book and got the whole Mother/White Horse imagery. Maybe Loomis recorded that whole conversation between young Michael and Mother. How else could that even have been passed along to Laurie?
At the end, when she believes she is wrestling with young Michael and talking to the dead Mother, maybe she was still drunk from the party?
Who told you Michael ended up the way he did Because of abuse? Dr. Loomis? As far as Zombie’s films not dealing with the supernatural yeah you’ve got a point my neighbor is a dead ringer for Dr. Satan and I think he’s got that same skull lined crypt/operating room thing going on under his garden. Laurie had a great life? Yeah we should all be so lucky to have our loving parents slaughtered and our friends beaten, maimed and murdered. Your entitled to your opinion and take on the film but don’t knock mine just because It doesn’t match up with yours. I was just trying to explain why it made sense to me since the reasoning for that scene fell into question. I’m not really sure if that point is brought up in the commentary or not but after seeing it 11 times in the theater I think I got a fairly good idea of what was intended with that scene.
who did she kill? What was she going to do with the knife when she picked up the knife in the directors cut? Michael was still alive when she stabbed him repeatedly in the theatrical cut
She was sharing vision throughout the film with Michael. She had the dream because their connected by their evil not because Loomis wrote a book.
Its just a movie there’s really no need to explain away her hallucinations with drunkenness. I’m drunk right now and nobody is holding me down lol. Oh and doesnt Micheal see his young self and dead mother as well? Was he drunk from a party?
Your entitled to your opinion and take on the film but don’t knock mine just because It doesn’t match up with yours.
I’m not knocking. I’m just asking questions and giving some of my own answers.
And I’m drunk too. Drinking vodka out of the bottle and drinking Schlitz beer.
Well in that case CHEERS!!!
I’m glad you liked the movie. So many people seem to drop by the RZ forum only to knock it. I’ll take this opportunity to post a picture of my screen used H2 knives again (The knife in the bottom picture was used in H1 and H2)
have you been in a wreck like that before?..your in shock
when i was in my car wreck (broke my back, hip and leg) i just kept repeating “what the fuck”
over and over…i was in shock and wasn’t all there…and the worst part was
when myers came around the corner and sawed my head off
yea i understand that but its one of those things that plays out differently on film. I mean the entire theater was laughing at him just because it looked to thought out.
i thought it was realistic as hell and uncomfortable. Anyone who’s been fucked up in one form or another knows what its like and has probably uttered the same words lol. I was playing in a junkyard when I was 15, at night, jumped off an old car and right onto a HUGE nail that went right through my foot.
i must have screamed every curse known to man over and over that night lol.
As for H2, my opinion from the get go was that:
a) it was beautifully shot
b) Mane is the best Myers since Warlock
c) it was BRUTAL, especially for being a mainstream release
Sure, there were some small plot holes, but overall it was a dark, moody film and it was a fun ride. People can talk shit on Rob all they want, while he may have forgone the evil Shape Michael, what he did do was make Michael scary and bad ass again…something that the writers and directors of H5-H8 seemed to have missed.