Mask lineage chart

DeathClutch · October 29, 2016, 7:02pm

kaizu:

DeathClutch:

Spirit Of Samhain:

That’s great, thanks for posting those,Davy Krueger!..“MMP STEALS mold, releases the nightmare and other incarnations” That part killed me, how is that even possible!? Did they break into, Justin’s house!..Some crazy, shady business in the past…

I think the Nightmare mold was sent to MMP and Justin never received his end of the deal, or something along those lines, hence the term “stolen”.
The only potential inaccuracy in the chart that I can spot is the WMP Genesis V3, which I think might be a retool of the NAG Classic 75 master.

The maker of that chart used whatever Genesis pic that was available, it doesn’t say what version nor does the maker care. WMP did use a Nightmare for the V2. That’s what he was trying to point out.

In that case, here is a photo of a blank Genesis V2 for the chart, in the event that the maker might, at some point, wish to amend it:

Ezra · October 30, 2016, 11:11pm

Truthfully a 100% from the ground up original sculpt would meen that it was 100% sculpted by the artist. If you are using a life-cast than you are stealing from the source material. Not a 100% ground up original sculpt. The KNIFE WIELDER is truly a 100% from the ground up original sculpt.

mngchrn · October 31, 2016, 3:14am

But there is no proof though. Just because it has near perfect placement of the facial features doesn’t mean it’s a retool of a recast.

Spirit_Of_Samhain · October 31, 2016, 5:19am

100% correct!.. The US78 is also a 100% from the ground up original sculpt, just say’n, because it’s mine

Spirit_Of_Samhain · October 31, 2016, 5:20am

Ah ok, got ya…Um, just curious, why would Justin send his mold to MMP?

Spook · October 31, 2016, 5:44am

There’s no proof, sure. But here’s a bit of potential evidence. Nik of NAG showed me this. It’s a flaw that’s unique to the Sean Clarke recast, but it’s also on the DB2. Why would he sculpt something like this that’s not on all Kirks?

mngchrn · October 31, 2016, 5:49am

The flaws look different to me. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t see it.

Spirit_Of_Samhain · October 31, 2016, 6:15am

I think in order to prove beyond a doubt, you would need to find at LEAST two identical mold marks, the chances of finding two identical mold marks from “different” molds is virtually impossible…The mask on the left is very washed out, you can tell that it came from a mold that has had many pulls taken from it and has not been repaired, you can tell this because of all the little nibs everywhere. Every time you pull a mask out of the mold, tiny little pieces of the mold go with it, and the brow has almost no detail left in it.

I do see one tiny mark that “almost” looks the same, but its too washed out to really tell…One tiny mark is just not enough proof.

mngchrn · October 31, 2016, 6:19am

Spirit Of Samhain:

TheShapeH2O:

Spook:

There’s no proof, sure. But here’s a bit of potential evidence. Nik of NAG showed me this. It’s a flaw that’s unique to the Sean Clarke recast, but it’s also on the DB2. Why would he sculpt something like this that’s not on all Kirks?

The flaws look different to me. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t see it.

I think in order to prove beyond a doubt, you would need to find at LEAST two identical mold marks, the chances of finding two identical mold marks from “different” molds is virtually impossible…The mask on the left is very washed out, you can tell that it came from a mold that has had many pulls taken from it and has not been repaired, you can tell this because of all the little nibs everywhere. Every time you pull a mask out of the mold, tiny little pieces of the mold go with it, and the brow has almost no detail left in it.

I do see one tiny mark that “almost” looks the same, but its too washed out to really tell…One tiny mark is just not enough proof.

So you are saying, Dennis recasted the Sean Clark Kirk and made the flaw sharper? The Sean Clark kirk was already very washed out before the mold wore out.

Spirit_Of_Samhain · October 31, 2016, 6:27am

TheShapeH2O:

Spirit Of Samhain:

TheShapeH2O:

The flaws look different to me. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t see it.

I think in order to prove beyond a doubt, you would need to find at LEAST two identical mold marks, the chances of finding two identical mold marks from “different” molds is virtually impossible…The mask on the left is very washed out, you can tell that it came from a mold that has had many pulls taken from it and has not been repaired, you can tell this because of all the little nibs everywhere. Every time you pull a mask out of the mold, tiny little pieces of the mold go with it, and the brow has almost no detail left in it.

I do see one tiny mark that “almost” looks the same, but its too washed out to really tell…One tiny mark is just not enough proof.

So you are saying, Dennis recasted the Sean Clark Kirk and made the flaw sharper? The Sean Clark kirk was already very washed out before the mold wore out.

No, I’m saying one tiny mark does not prove anything…

mngchrn · October 31, 2016, 6:30am

Spirit Of Samhain:

TheShapeH2O:

Spirit Of Samhain:

I think in order to prove beyond a doubt, you would need to find at LEAST two identical mold marks, the chances of finding two identical mold marks from “different” molds is virtually impossible…The mask on the left is very washed out, you can tell that it came from a mold that has had many pulls taken from it and has not been repaired, you can tell this because of all the little nibs everywhere. Every time you pull a mask out of the mold, tiny little pieces of the mold go with it, and the brow has almost no detail left in it.

I do see one tiny mark that “almost” looks the same, but its too washed out to really tell…One tiny mark is just not enough proof.

So you are saying, Dennis recasted the Sean Clark Kirk and made the flaw sharper? The Sean Clark kirk was already very washed out before the mold wore out.

No, I’m saying one tiny mark does not prove anything…

Oh, sorry. My bad. Didn’t read that clearly.

Spirit_Of_Samhain · October 31, 2016, 6:43am