so what do u think is it a mater of people being to attached 2 the mask to price it fairly? masks 4 i c up to 800 dollars! even don post masks go to like 200! i think the economy is a factor for the base price and the hard work the artists put into them but the ebay prices seem to be higher than the price from the maker! just crazy. its funny people say “oh my hobbie is so much more money than collecting rubber masks” NOT the fact is ALL hobbies are alot of money. i respect other makers myself being one, not of myers, i’ll pay good money for a mask but it seems ebayers are asking to much. i seen my own prop go for like 30 dollars more than i charge! and i was still making them! 
our thoughts?
I don’t do much on ebay but I’m sure since the times have changed since ebay started and you can no longer see who the highest bidder is for a mask, I believe that they artificially inflate the price of their own item by having friends bid on it and people tend to be drawn to something with say 15 bids as opposed to 3 and it makes them feel like they are missing out on something special when it is the same exact thing. Just my opinion. It’s clever marketing of what they are selling and just like people are they are curious so they have to stick their nose in it.
I see both sides of the coin really. Me personally, when I put masks on the bay, I always start them at $15 or less and always prepare myself for the fact that they may not exceed that. If they don’t, then oh well…someone will get a smokin deal and that sometimes makes me feel just as good inside as “getting” a smokin deal. Sometimes they go up to $300 and sometimes they top out at $50. It’s not really that big of a deal for me. I’m not in this to buy and sell and become a millionare. If I sell a mask, it’s because I"ve lost interest in it and I think it’s time for someone else to enjoy it as much as I did and I always state that in my auction. So I guess in short, to me it’s not about the money, but to some people it is and I don’t think we can hold it against them in either case. If I really want a mask, I will pay what it costs because it means something to me and I"m sure it means that much or way more to the person who crated it. It’s pretty simple really…if I can’t afford it, I don’t buy it. I want a Corvette Z06 really bad, but I can’t afford one. That is it, that is a fact and there is no need for me to be pissed at Chevy because I can’t afford it. There are also people who make a living at this and I don’t think it’s right to hold that against them. They are making a living doing something they love and that is awesome! Yes it’s tough paying those prices and it’s even tougher looking at the masks when you don’t have the cash, but there are many factors that go into it.
These are just my thoughts and I am in NO WAY trying to fight or casue drama. I’m just replying to a post 
Nick
I agree w you 100%. Although, I have never understood why people buy a mask then sell it and try to make a profit off of it. I mean, I understand that there’s always that certain number someone can give up a mask they love and could not imagine living without, but I do not believe this goes along with every single mask someone owns. I personally don’t mind giving up SOME masks for a lot cheaper than I paid, because I know that person who is buying it is going to love it and appreciate it just as much as I did, same as you said Nick. I know that there are those certain masks out there (KH, etc.) that are gonna have a very big price tag on them no matter what, but that’s because those masks are the most beautiful masks anyone here has laid eyes on 
and would give an arm and a leg to own one. Hell I’d give my left testicle to own one… maybe even my right
Take care.
-John
I just get a kick out of the people on here who charge 500 dollars or more and expect you to cover shipping. Id be like hell no, your ganna cover it, or you aint getting paid. Than you got people selling a mask for 100 dollars, with shipping. Got a Myers that has been farted on by both carpenter and Shatner…1,750…and you cover shipping…hey you already paid 1,750…whats another 15 bucks, dude?? hahahaha
Amen John…who needs testicles anyway when there is a KH involved
Nick
I think everyone has made some valid points here. The value of something is whatever people are willing to pay for it. I like Cobra’s saying though that if well I’ll use Nick Castle tinkled in it and after a laser scanned kirk 75 that had been mysteriously found in an ancient tomb was up for sale someone would pay big money for it. Probably more so than if I did it lol. Thing is people are buying corn flakes that look like the state of Illinois on ebay for hundreds of dollars so these guys can artificially inflate the price if they don’t get what they want lower it. It seems in some ways that this hobby has become saturated and if you pay say 500 for a msk don’t expect to get that back when you sell it.
false bids may indeed be the reason for some high priced masks on e bay and i would say sentimental value goes ALONG way in some mask prices as well. it seems that some sellers fail to realize it is usually hard to find a buyer that can justify the price they are asking, considering that price is usually 5 times or more higher than what the mask originally cost new.
SENTIMENTAL VALUE IS WHAT AN ITEM IS WORTH TO A PERSON FOR KEEP SAKE. when you put that item up for sale then the sentimental value to the potential buyer is irrelavent. sentimental value is really a figure of speach and obviously shouldnt be added to the face value of an item. $3000 - $4000 for a mask thats only a replica and made 8-5 years ago 
crazy!
an average, from what i see in the classifieds 2nd hand masks are considerably cheaper than they were when i joined in 08. theres always going to be folks that are pround of their masks and folks who are willing to offer a fair deal. the way i look at it in this hobby. if a person thinks their mask is worth 5-10 times what they paid for it then by all means they should hang on to it 
I always do Buy it now anyway…I always try to get back what a mask cost me or its lower than the mask cost me…Sometimes when I have a great piece I have to charge slightly more than the mask cost me…Final value fees on a 250-300 dollar mask is 25 dollars…So you have the initial listing fee of 1-3 dollars, Final value fee, then the paypal fee…Hell you are gonna be loosing out at least 25-35 dollars when its done through ebay and paypal being used as payment…So sometimes sellers have to raise prices to try and get the true value of the item…Now a couple hundred dollars more I can understand frustration…But People can charge what they want really…If someone is willing to pay it then thats what its really worth to the buyer if they want it bad enough…Everyone does has valid points though…Later guys
Yep, some good points made here. I personally don’t like going through ebay and would much rather purchase items I want through the classifieds here. Case in point, I got my first ever indy mask from PureH8 here and it arrived last Wednesday. It was a very nice copy of the NCS Nemesis. He sold it to me for $65.00 with shipping included. That was a great deal and I know he could have got more for it through ebay probably. I have noticed a few instances of people who turn masks around here on this board. In one classified post they are wanting to buy (insert mask here) and then the following week they are selling the same mask and saying “just received this mask, but due to circumstances have to let it go” WTF???
That’s all about turning a mask over for profit, and I don’t buy the whole “circumstances” thing when they were asking to buy the mask just a week before. I don’t like ebay, I don’t like their fees, and I don’t like what they have done in terms of causing my other collectibles (comics, toys) to lose value. You have people underbidding and lowballing people and it does in fact lower the value of certain items. Then you have the people who charge outrageous prices for things, it doesn’t bother me anymore, I just look at the item and look at the price they want and realize they have wasted their time putting it up because it won’t sell. I also sell at toy shows and flea markets and I know what my stuff is worth and what I’m willing to let things go for. I will also make deals and let things go for less than I wanted, especially if a kid is involved and I know that they will be getting some enjoyment from an item. Hell, I’ve given shit away at a flea market because a kid might like something but doesn’t have any money. I won’t do business on ebay and I won’t buy something either, unless it’s a must have item. And again, if it’s Myers related I’d just as soon get it from a trusted member on this forum anyway.
Just my 2 cents on the subject
I have to disagree with you on one point bud…Its almost impossible to get what a high mask is really worth around here…Thats why alot of people here turn to ebay…Ive bought mask, had them arrive and put them up for sale days later many times…Tried to get what the mask cost me and then dropped the price majorly when I couldnt…Now most of the time its because I got the mask only to turn around and see something else I want more…So I put the mask up for sale to fund it…Whether it be a myers mask or something outside the hobby that im after…Selling mask is a way to fund another…Im not the quanity type of collector so if a mask pops up for sale that I would like to have more than one I just bought odds are Im gonna list it for sale to try and fund that mask…Then you most certainly have moments when you get a mask and it wasnt exactly what you thought it would be so you turn around and sell it that same day or days later…There are many , many reasons why people sell a mask after they recieve it…I mean you buy a mask but somewhere during the time it takes to get to you you realize you need money for something else so you are almost ready to sell as soon as it gets there…Simply because yo didnt have that money issue when you bought or ordered the mask…I may not be seeing something here but I really dont see it…I mean I havent seen mask going for what they are really worth or more than they are worth in very long time…I see 05 psycho’s going for around 300 dollars…CGP warlocks going for around 200.00…I almost never get back what a mask cost me…Very few times over the past year or so have I been able to break even on a mask…Ive had to sell mask for hundreds less that what they originally cost me…So maybe im missing something…I havent been on as much I used to be but IMO I think all mask should fetch every dollar they are truly worth…
Yeah, I can see your points. When I say people who are buying masks to turn them for a profit I certainly didn’t mean you…but I have seen it and recently. I can understand getting a mask and it doesn’t fit, or you see something you like more and decide to use it as trade bait, I meant strictly going out with the intention of buying high end masks because the person knows they can turn it around for more money. It seems like a lot of trouble to go through to make $50.00 to $75.00 and also people will eventually catch on.
If you use ebay for the reasons you stated, I can’t argue with that either. The economy is weird right now, and I think it’s a buyers market for most things including our beloved masks. I feel the pain of selling something for less than it’s worth too as I said previously. I just feel more comfortable doing Myers business on the MM.net board myself. It’s not like I really know anyone personally, but seeing the same people here day after day I for sure feel more comfortable with them than some person on ebay. That being said I’m speaking more along the lines of a buyer and not a seller on ebay. I can see where someone will have a much larger audience for their item on ebay than here, that’s just a fact. I have thought about putting stuff up for sale there, I most likely will at some point, but I still don’t like it 
I love the ones that say Buy it now for $1. O ya Shippings $300 though. 
Great thread, and alot of great points as well guys. Yes, The economy is definately Strange at the moment. Its making think twice about what im doing. Its making me loose alot of heart to let things go for much less than I deserve for them, things I create. Things that take me an unmeasurable amount of time, passion and creativity to make. I remember only 3 years ago when I first started painting hockey masks I would get approx $139 for each hock, And those were hocks that are not even in the same universe as the ones I paint today. and now im lucky if I get $99 each ? I just sold this myers mask on ebay for $10.50 because I dont like putting a reserve on my items. R my products seriously THAT shitty!!! Really ??? WTF??? Its VERY disheartening 
I Hate ebay, and I HATE this economy.
i know main reason i sell mine a little more on ebay is because of the fees! you gotta cover urself with those
Oh I know bud…And I understand your points as well…Yes some poeple do try for profit on ebay thats for sure…I was just saying its not always the case really …But well spoken my man…Later guys
ya gotta look at that shipping before ya buy
I was looking this afternoon and some of the mask are really high.I saw a whitey myers for $350(It was a nice copy though).I nearly bid on a whitey about a month ago ,but didnt have the cash at the time.I think it went for about $80.That would have been a deal.I can see why some mask go at higher prices than others.When you have that perfect copy with the perfect paint and hair it is worth more to me.The artist may not ever duplicate it again.Each mask is really a one of a kind if you think about it.