The H1/2 Hero Paint Job, Theories and Opinions... Discuss!

Okey gotcha :slight_smile: Just a quick of topic question. Is it possible to use heat treathment with a heat-gun or hairdryer on the original hero to get the eyes back to their original shape ?

it’s soft and hard in places, but I think it’s really risky

Update on the phone calls-

I just spoke with James Rathbun, the assistant property master for the film. He told me that the hero mask had no repairs/repaints while on the set of H2. He also told me that he did not recall them bringing in a second mask for reshoots, though. So unless he just wasn’t on set that day, I don’t know if I trust it. Unfortunately that phone call did not go as planned, but I have a phone call coming in on Tuesday that could help shed light on it. I’ll be talking to another prop guy from H2 that would’ve handled this stuff, wish me luck and hopefully we can get a few more answers and a step closer to solving the mystery!



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Update #2- Spoke with Terry Feller and his wife, super cool people! He unfortunately was a set builder and wasn’t required on set, but still very cool nonetheless. Making more calls and receiving some later this week :slight_smile:.


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Awesome! Keep us updated!

Will do! Update that I found…

This is a quote from Rich Sternbach:

“In a supply cabinet at Pumpkin Pie Productions, we had one mask left from the original Halloween, and no idea where to get any others for the sequel. It appeared that we’d need to go check out some of the toys stores and such, but I noticed that there was some wording molded into the neck area. There was a model number, and ‘Don Post Studios.’ I made a call, read off the model number, and the word came back ‘It’s our Captain Kirk mask.’ I asked if we could buy a number of them, and was told ‘We’ll give you a box, just give us credit.’ With that, I turned the official dealings over to the higher-ups. Brush with greatness.”


I wonder what mask this “pumpkin pie productions” had? Stunt mask? Hero? I may have to get ahold of Rich and ask for some more info on this.


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This is getting more and more interesting with each post

Loving these updates man, keep up the good work :smiley:

Right?! Lol. I’m excited to talk with Rick. Especially since, to my knowledge, the kirks didn’t have stamps. Also I’ve never heard of Pumpkin Pie Productions so I’ll be looking into that as well haha.

I think what I’m most interested in is hearing there was no major repaint done to the neck while on set. Maybe someone else’s story will contradict it, we’ll see!

Thanks! Will do man :slight_smile:






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Rick texted me, I’ll be emailing him pics and questions later. LETS GOOO! :laughing: :laughing: :drinkers:


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How do you know all these people :laughing: Thanks for these updates. This is what makes this franchise so much fun!

No problem! I know right! It’s so cool trying to unravel all these mysteries :slight_smile:. Hopefully it gets somewhere :laughing:


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Well, unfortunately the conversation with Rick didn’t go far. He can’t recall which of the 3 masks it was (I sent photos) or if it was even used for the first Halloween. I was going to ask his boss at the time, J. Michael Riva, but he passed in 2012. I’m getting a phone call from a special FX guy from H2 tomorrow, so I will update then.

But other than that, does anyone have speculation or input on whether or not they think the mask was painted by TLW or DPS?


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I’m thinking if the movie was brand new today, they may of taken better notes about things like this.

Not only that, but they didn’t really have high hopes for Halloween. They weren’t expecting a huge success and a huge following who’d want a screen-accurate costume

True. Also even though Halloween was a holiday, it wasn’t as massive or a big money market as it is now. Also now with movie you have the extras and behind the scenes shots or producers cuts added to dvds. Those things weren’t big back in the 70’s

They could have lightly spray painted the mask so it wouldn’t have cracked. Ive done it and it works, only thing is the paint doesn’t just peel or rub off that easy…that makes me think that it wasn’t just a can of white spray paint bought at the hardware store, but something else.

The paint today could be totally different to the paint from the 70s.

That is very much a possibility! I don’t doubt that the formula was different back then, also it could’ve been a special spray paint with a flex sealer in it.


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I don’t recall where I heard this, but Tommy Lee Wallace always said that he painted the mask “fish belly white”, which supposedly is a taxidermy paint color, and for that reason, is a flexible paint.

What sucks is all this happened 40 years ago and peoples memory is ass!!!

I’ve even tried the White clown make up, but it doesn’t stick very well to latex.