Things People are Missing About ENDS!

[craigterminator]

Deserves its own post I think.

The opening title sequence used the font and colour of Halloween 3, the movie is also the third in the trilogy; this is smart, and most people missed it.

They’re also missing the fact that Dr Sartain let Michael out in 2018, he was also corrupted by evil, and took Michael’s mask at one point. If this didn’t happen, Michael would still be in Smith’s Grove rotting away as an old man. “Say something” is a metaphor, it’s meta, for the fans, they want Michael to speak again, not literally, but they demand a movie, they demand kills.

Kills established that the more he kills, the more he transcends. Killing gives him his invincibility, his ability to withstand insane damage. This is more evident in the 78 flashbacks, he missed Laurie, she got away, and he also missed the cop that Hawkins accidentally shot, which is why he was in a weakened state, and got arrested for 40 years. Michael had no choice, he would have died facing off against the cops. Loomis’ dialogue in the scene further justifies this, “Hawkins, did Michael kill, did he kill again?!”; I think Loomis knew at this point in this version of the story. “It needs to die” is meta for the franchise, and how it needs to end.

Ends, Corey makes sense, like I said he was corrupted by evil, just like Sartain, and the movie is in the tradition of Halloween 3, right down to the font and colour in the opening credits. People are complaining how he was so strong in Kills and so weak in Ends, that’s simple, he went into hiding because Halloween night was over, he only kills on Halloween right, it is the title of the movie, and the insane damage he took at the end of Kills, that justifies it. You literally see Michael gain strength when he kills the cop in the sewers, his composure completely changes. But then Corey starts stealing his kills, and steals his mask; at this point Corey is stronger. You even see Corey’s hand has fully healed in one scene, right after a kill. Michael is once again forced to fight Laurie, because the fans demand it, once again it’s meta, which is why these scenarios keep getting fabricated. “It needs to die”; they end this version of the franchise.

people have issue with Laurie overpowering him; guessing they forgot about the 78 movie, and how many times Laurie had the upper hand. He was in an extremely weakened state in Ends.

Michael has died in dramatic ways already, in H2, H20, and H2 (2009), I don’t see how people are also annoyed that he died in this movie. They’ll just reboot again eventually.

I hated these new movies, but after Ends, I’m in the minority, but it clicked for me, it made me realise the story arc and what they were going for. As I explained above, it makes sense in many ways, I didn’t see it until I studied the trilogy as a whole. I think it’s a lot smarter than people can see.

[Dan_of_Earth35]

people take what they see on screen so literally. “transcends” is symbolic for his legacy more than the flesh and blood man. Like the Nolan Batman trilogy, under the mask he is flesh and blood, but as a symbol he is everlasting. As we see in “ends” its his legacy that lives on in the town even though he’s been gone for 4 years. Please don’t make posts about people missing things when you yourself only saw the film in the most literal sense possible

[ILove10aflyViper]

It’s clear that these movies were written with both a literal and symbolic interpretation of his transcending in mind.

[johnniner7]

They screwed up from day one on this trilogy. One we didn’t need another Laurie and michael face off . Also why would they skip halloween 2 ? But just go off 78 halloween seems like wrong move in my opinion. Also something new would of been great from get go . You have 2018 and kills same night then ends four later makes no sense at all. Ends wasn’t even halloween movie for me. I felt like I watched drama lifetime movie than halloween movie but just my two cents

[ColnalCochran]

Deserves its own post I think.

The opening title sequence used the font and colour of Halloween 3, the movie is also the third in the trilogy; this is smart, and most people missed it.

They’re also missing the fact that Dr Sartain let Michael out in 2018, he was also corrupted by evil, and took Michael’s mask at one point. If this didn’t happen, Michael would still be in Smith’s Grove rotting away as an old man. “Say something” is a metaphor, it’s meta, for the fans, they want Michael to speak again, not literally, but they demand a movie, they demand kills.

Kills established that the more he kills, the more he transcends. Killing gives him his invincibility, his ability to withstand insane damage. This is more evident in the 78 flashbacks, he missed Laurie, she got away, and he also missed the cop that Hawkins accidentally shot, which is why he was in a weakened state, and got arrested for 40 years. Michael had no choice, he would have died facing off against the cops. Loomis’ dialogue in the scene further justifies this, “Hawkins, did Michael kill, did he kill again?!”; I think Loomis knew at this point in this version of the story. “It needs to die” is meta for the franchise, and how it needs to end.

Ends, Corey makes sense, like I said he was corrupted by evil, just like Sartain, and the movie is in the tradition of Halloween 3, right down to the font and colour in the opening credits. People are complaining how he was so strong in Kills and so weak in Ends, that’s simple, he went into hiding because Halloween night was over, he only kills on Halloween right, it is the title of the movie, and the insane damage he took at the end of Kills, that justifies it. You literally see Michael gain strength when he kills the cop in the sewers, his composure completely changes. But then Corey starts stealing his kills, and steals his mask; at this point Corey is stronger. You even see Corey’s hand has fully healed in one scene, right after a kill. Michael is once again forced to fight Laurie, because the fans demand it, once again it’s meta, which is why these scenarios keep getting fabricated. “It needs to die”; they end this version of the franchise.

people have issue with Laurie overpowering him; guessing they forgot about the 78 movie, and how many times Laurie had the upper hand. He was in an extremely weakened state in Ends.

Michael has died in dramatic ways already, in H2, H20, and H2 (2009), I don’t see how people are also annoyed that he died in this movie. They’ll just reboot again eventually.

I hated these new movies, but after Ends, I’m in the minority, but it clicked for me, it made me realise the story arc and what they were going for. As I explained above, it makes sense in many ways, I didn’t see it until I studied the trilogy as a whole. I think it’s a lot smarter than people can see.

The ol’ “I hate the two movies that were good…but enjoyed the piece of trash nobody else liked.” This is gonna be the next Halloween 6 where fans of liking things that suck will say that it was actually good and made sense. Was it a good movie? Ehh idk. If it was like a Star Wars story and if it existed outside the actual trilogy, than yes. But closing the 2018 Halloween set of three with that piece of garbage was mind boggling. I personally loved Halloween 2018 and really liked what they did with kills. Totally different movie and that was necessary. You can’t keep doing the same thing. It was like the empire strikes back where everything goes wrong. The quality of kills also depended on how well they closed with the third and I think they failed miserably. It was nice to switch everything up and just have a kill fest that had a different tone. I wanted something new in Ends, but not that. Not 1hr and 51 mins of some guy named Corey with 10 mins of Michael Myers. Side not, the opening of Ends was hands down the best Halloween opening of all time and set up the movie for a really cool story. It just went down hill in flames after that. Not trying to shit on you, it’s just odd to me when people dislike quality horror in a series they “love” yet dislike something as well done as 2018 and praise the trash that is Ends. We are a weird group of fans lol

[Pyratescoin]

I could see the symbolism that it suggests. However, I prefer to take it as just that, symbolically and metaphorically.
Perhaps Corey becoming a psycho just gave him the psychological power to begin ignoring his pain and his overall well-being.
Perhaps Michael seeming to get stronger after the killing wasn’t physically literal. Maybe it’s just some kind of psychotic rush for himself. (Also, the hobo did mention that occasionally Michael would take people into the sewer to kill them. So throughout the four years, I imagine he was indeed killing but very infrequently.)

But of course, there’s room for one to interpret; it’s a good thing art is subjective.
And just an extra note, I loved Ends. The DGG trilogy has become my definitive timeline.

[ShapeLike]

I could see the symbolism that it suggests. However, I prefer to take it as just that, symbolically and metaphorically.
Perhaps Corey becoming a psycho just gave him the psychological power to begin ignoring his pain and his overall well-being.
Perhaps Michael seeming to get stronger after the killing wasn’t physically literal. Maybe it’s just some kind of psychotic rush for himself. (Also, the hobo did mention that occasionally Michael would take people into the sewer to kill them. So throughout the four years, I imagine he was indeed killing but very infrequently.)

But of course, there’s room for one to interpret; it’s a good thing art is subjective.
And just an extra note, I loved Ends. The DGG trilogy has become my definitive timeline.

I agree with a lot of what you said, it leaves a lot up for interpretation, makes for great discussion among other things, this trilogy is probably my favorite as well and may be my go to timeline

[Space_Mage]

I want to see someone cut all 3 films together now, just so the story actually makes sense and has no stupid jokes

[TheShape96]

I want to see someone cut all 3 films together now, just so the story actually makes sense and has no stupid jokes

not a fan of laurie showing grief her tits?

[craigterminator]

Deserves its own post I think.

The opening title sequence used the font and colour of Halloween 3, the movie is also the third in the trilogy; this is smart, and most people missed it.

They’re also missing the fact that Dr Sartain let Michael out in 2018, he was also corrupted by evil, and took Michael’s mask at one point. If this didn’t happen, Michael would still be in Smith’s Grove rotting away as an old man. “Say something” is a metaphor, it’s meta, for the fans, they want Michael to speak again, not literally, but they demand a movie, they demand kills.

Kills established that the more he kills, the more he transcends. Killing gives him his invincibility, his ability to withstand insane damage. This is more evident in the 78 flashbacks, he missed Laurie, she got away, and he also missed the cop that Hawkins accidentally shot, which is why he was in a weakened state, and got arrested for 40 years. Michael had no choice, he would have died facing off against the cops. Loomis’ dialogue in the scene further justifies this, “Hawkins, did Michael kill, did he kill again?!”; I think Loomis knew at this point in this version of the story. “It needs to die” is meta for the franchise, and how it needs to end.

Ends, Corey makes sense, like I said he was corrupted by evil, just like Sartain, and the movie is in the tradition of Halloween 3, right down to the font and colour in the opening credits. People are complaining how he was so strong in Kills and so weak in Ends, that’s simple, he went into hiding because Halloween night was over, he only kills on Halloween right, it is the title of the movie, and the insane damage he took at the end of Kills, that justifies it. You literally see Michael gain strength when he kills the cop in the sewers, his composure completely changes. But then Corey starts stealing his kills, and steals his mask; at this point Corey is stronger. You even see Corey’s hand has fully healed in one scene, right after a kill. Michael is once again forced to fight Laurie, because the fans demand it, once again it’s meta, which is why these scenarios keep getting fabricated. “It needs to die”; they end this version of the franchise.

people have issue with Laurie overpowering him; guessing they forgot about the 78 movie, and how many times Laurie had the upper hand. He was in an extremely weakened state in Ends.

Michael has died in dramatic ways already, in H2, H20, and H2 (2009), I don’t see how people are also annoyed that he died in this movie. They’ll just reboot again eventually.

I hated these new movies, but after Ends, I’m in the minority, but it clicked for me, it made me realise the story arc and what they were going for. As I explained above, it makes sense in many ways, I didn’t see it until I studied the trilogy as a whole. I think it’s a lot smarter than people can see.

The ol’ “I hate the two movies that were good…but enjoyed the piece of trash nobody else liked.” This is gonna be the next Halloween 6 where fans of liking things that suck will say that it was actually good and made sense. Was it a good movie? Ehh idk. If it was like a Star Wars story and if it existed outside the actual trilogy, than yes. But closing the 2018 Halloween set of three with that piece of garbage was mind boggling. I personally loved Halloween 2018 and really liked what they did with kills. Totally different movie and that was necessary. You can’t keep doing the same thing. It was like the empire strikes back where everything goes wrong. The quality of kills also depended on how well they closed with the third and I think they failed miserably. It was nice to switch everything up and just have a kill fest that had a different tone. I wanted something new in Ends, but not that. Not 1hr and 51 mins of some guy named Corey with 10 mins of Michael Myers. Side not, the opening of Ends was hands down the best Halloween opening of all time and set up the movie for a really cool story. It just went down hill in flames after that. Not trying to S*** on you, it’s just odd to me when people dislike quality horror in a series they “love” yet dislike something as well done as 2018 and praise the trash that is Ends. We are a weird group of fans lol

I get what you’re saying, I found 2018 to be just ‘alright’, and that’s okay o say it was a very well made movie and good Halloween film, but I felt like I’d seen it all before, and saw no point in them facing off yet again, sister or not, made no difference. I know they were forced together by Sartain, but it’s all the same to me. I think I like Ends for not being the same, even though they advertised it as the same, and that’s why people are even more annoyed, they advertised something and then didn’t deliver.

[craigterminator]

I could see the symbolism that it suggests. However, I prefer to take it as just that, symbolically and metaphorically.
Perhaps Corey becoming a psycho just gave him the psychological power to begin ignoring his pain and his overall well-being.
Perhaps Michael seeming to get stronger after the killing wasn’t physically literal. Maybe it’s just some kind of psychotic rush for himself. (Also, the hobo did mention that occasionally Michael would take people into the sewer to kill them. So throughout the four years, I imagine he was indeed killing but very infrequently.)

But of course, there’s room for one to interpret; it’s a good thing art is subjective.
And just an extra note, I loved Ends. The DGG trilogy has become my definitive timeline.

I took that as him killing just enough people to sustain himself over the 4 years. But then again the hobo says “I am Michael Myers, now get me that mask!” Right before Corey kills him, so can he be trusted. I took it as another Sartain situation, evil corrupting anything nearby like nuclear radiation leaking from a bomb.


I get what you’re saying though, when Michael killed that cop and had some weird orgasm… very reminiscent of the noises he makes in the 78 film, particularly the Ghost Bob strangulation scene. He’s getting off on it for sure.