It’s very simple, its all up to you if you want to buy it or not.
A prime example of what this thread was meant to be about, yet no one can actually give a straight forward answer to it. I find THAT a bit odd…
That would be a valid point if the guy was making copies to sell. He made a copy for himself and his buddy made one and ended up selling it. That’s two masks, one of which was sold. That isn’t hurting ANYONE or causing ANYONE to lose ANY money.
I agree with you, Travis.
you honestly think if someone offered him 300 for one, he wouldn’t do it. come on, be realistic
Now you’re questioning the guys integrity? Why? Not everyone is monetarily driven.
well said 
This is unfortunately just a never ending battle of ethics.
agreed, and thanks to everyone who agrees with me, and to all those who dont, its whatever. If you dont see things my way thats fine idc, but im entitled to any opinion i care to share
i would understand if Toth had made the mask to sell…but its a robotic head…not a mask. why would people not wanna buy this thing cause of an accurate mask?? you’d think they would buy it to see how accurate the mask comes out. Its not like he’s selling it. and even if he was i think thats his business…theres over 60 billion people in the world…and if theres only 2 masks in existence…whose losing money??? 
cause i highly doubt even a quarter of those people care about Michael Myers masks
sorry i put mikey on the spot like that
marcus 
ok after some digging. all i have left to offer is this.
spaz you know your mask is a recast yet nobody complains
https://forum.michael-myers.net/t/h6-repaint-done-lots-o-pics/31509/1
all found in a search
NICK MEECE:
Send the head to a mask maker here on the board and have them cast the head.
GREG31:
YEAH, THATS WHAT I WOULD DO. THAT’S A REALLY COOL SCULPT, NO DOUBT!!!
KIRK MAGNUM:
Anyway with this type of medium this is a re-casters dream. I give it less than 1 month before someone starts cranking masks out all coming from this piece…
1971:
i do believe people will definatley re-cast this. which is’nt a bad move obviously- frownd upon i suppose in circles
but really thee only way to get this sculpt- an OFFICIAL sculpt.
im kinda on the fence right now then as to send it packing for return or actually have this thing made up by a fellow maker?-
i would probably have to do it myself though if i wanted this… once you start involving anyone else and then having them recreating the mold and then possibal sales of this… there could maybe be SOME leaglities involved i might think? as opposed to making it your own and for your own use…
hmmmmm… i don’t know.
MIKEY:
I hope the head is large enough to reproduce for a mask …
1971:
but the bottom line is, and like many have said- …owning this?.. i could make a mask off of the molded head and i would have an actual Toth sculpted RZ H1 mask if i want- which i thought was a great mask. so yeah… i got this and i do have the option to return it,… so that is nice… but i also have basically a scale size mask that i can duplicate if i want- and actually, i own a diablo which is a 22"-23" size and fits my head snug, but to scale and a scarred which is a little bigger and kind of floats on my head- but if i were to make a mask from this mold, i would have one that i feel, would fit just about perfect and it is a screen acurate mask. and comparred to buying any of these others that are out- hence the ones i already own and mentioned, you figure how much those go for?!- this isnt really that much of a money difference to have an actual Toth sculpted mask. and with all of this being said- thats all there is to it. its whatever any one would want out of this… it is what it is. even if some hate that mask or what have you… i dig it- and can make myself a copy of it if i want. so… anyways- heres to you
KNOWBODY:
it’s a cool display for sure. But i’m sure that in no time some mask maker(s) will buy it, pull a laurie strode and decapitate it, and then make some recasts of the head.
theres mention of it here too
https://forum.michael-myers.net/t/best-scarred-besides-nag/29573/4
KIRK MAGNUM:
Also, with the new Reel Toys animatronic 1 to 1 scale ‘Myers’ out there with the resin head sculpted by Wayne Toth, expect that to be re-casted and put into mask form shortly. I have seen it and the mask has a lot of the detail and it will look great in mask form.
http://www.halloweennews.com/news/119/A … 07-07.html
http://www.spirithalloween.com/product/ … ael-myers/
EYESOFAPSYCHOPATH:
Its already being done my friend.
KIRK MAGNUM:
I know of a total of 3 different people doing this. So, if you know one, I’m absolutely sure it’s not one of my 3 so that makes it 4 now!
ZEPHRO (re: the accusations of Sam recasting the animatronic):
So I ask, even if Sam recasted the face of the Myers Animatronic, which by the way I don’t believe he did because he’d never spend $250 to get that thing, what is the problem? Some of the people that were upset about it yesterday have bought a Nightmare Man, a Psycho, a Nightmare, a Myers based on a life cast, and praised at the highest level Bryan’s recasted Melody Kirk. For those that were so mad about it, what is the problem? And if you were so mad, I guess you should throw away most of your collection.
JON DANO:
I feel ya Chris…almost EVERY myers mask we have is a recast…I don’t have one mask in my collection that is a recast anymore because I like to have original’s.
Look at all those H6’s floating around…all recasts.
SLASHER X:
The way I see it is that all of the “COVETED” masks in the Myers fan base are all recast. Plain and simple. All of the 75 Kirk recasts which are far too many to list. The H6’s, H20’s, Resurrections, Silver Shamrocks’, etc. ALL RECAST!
No one is sculpting their own H3 set, or any of the other “Screen Accurate” masks when there are sources available that link to the actual screen used sources. That is just the way it is.
There are some talented sculptors here, but how often do you see original sculpt masks in demand? Not nearly as often as those that are of the recast “screen accurate” variety.
H8SHAPE:
You cannot say it’s ok for a older mask to be recast & not a new one. A recast is a recast period… I know besides Sam, Myers04 sculpts, Mabry does & the Addison member… I’m sure there is more but the rest are in fact recasts!
SLASHER X:
Recasting mass production such as Don Post and others really should not be allowed. But without allowing that we wouldn’t have the quality of H1,2,3,4,& 8 masks out there. So that is a real dilemma. Ideally mask makers should use the originals not as tools to clay press or recast, but as reference only. Get measurements, angles, geometry, etc and use that to aid in sculpting a replica. That is what would be ideal.
I AM IN NO WAY CALLING ANYONE OUT
ok after some digging. all i have left to offer is this.
spaz you know your mask is a recast yet nobody complains
https://forum.michael-myers.net/t/h6-repaint-done-lots-o-pics/31509/1
all found in a search
NICK MEECE:
Send the head to a mask maker here on the board and have them cast the head.
GREG31:
YEAH, THATS WHAT I WOULD DO. THAT’S A REALLY COOL SCULPT, NO DOUBT!!!
KIRK MAGNUM:
Anyway with this type of medium this is a re-casters dream. I give it less than 1 month before someone starts cranking masks out all coming from this piece…
1971:
i do believe people will definatley re-cast this. which is’nt a bad move obviously- frownd upon i suppose in circles
but really thee only way to get this sculpt- an OFFICIAL sculpt.
im kinda on the fence right now then as to send it packing for return or actually have this thing made up by a fellow maker?-
i would probably have to do it myself though if i wanted this… once you start involving anyone else and then having them recreating the mold and then possibal sales of this… there could maybe be SOME leaglities involved i might think? as opposed to making it your own and for your own use…
hmmmmm… i don’t know.
MIKEY:
I hope the head is large enough to reproduce for a mask …
1971:
but the bottom line is, and like many have said- …owning this?.. i could make a mask off of the molded head and i would have an actual Toth sculpted RZ H1 mask if i want- which i thought was a great mask. so yeah… i got this and i do have the option to return it,… so that is nice… but i also have basically a scale size mask that i can duplicate if i want- and actually, i own a diablo which is a 22"-23" size and fits my head snug, but to scale and a scarred which is a little bigger and kind of floats on my head- but if i were to make a mask from this mold, i would have one that i feel, would fit just about perfect and it is a screen acurate mask. and comparred to buying any of these others that are out- hence the ones i already own and mentioned, you figure how much those go for?!- this isnt really that much of a money difference to have an actual Toth sculpted mask. and with all of this being said- thats all there is to it. its whatever any one would want out of this… it is what it is. even if some hate that mask or what have you… i dig it- and can make myself a copy of it if i want. so… anyways- heres to you
KNOWBODY:
it’s a cool display for sure. But i’m sure that in no time some mask maker(s) will buy it, pull a laurie strode and decapitate it, and then make some recasts of the head.
theres mention of it here too
https://forum.michael-myers.net/t/best-scarred-besides-nag/29573/4
KIRK MAGNUM:
Also, with the new Reel Toys animatronic 1 to 1 scale ‘Myers’ out there with the resin head sculpted by Wayne Toth, expect that to be re-casted and put into mask form shortly. I have seen it and the mask has a lot of the detail and it will look great in mask form.
http://www.halloweennews.com/news/119/A … 07-07.html
http://www.spirithalloween.com/product/ … ael-myers/
EYESOFAPSYCHOPATH:
Its already being done my friend.
KIRK MAGNUM:
I know of a total of 3 different people doing this. So, if you know one, I’m absolutely sure it’s not one of my 3 so that makes it 4 now!
ZEPHRO (re: the accusations of Sam recasting the animatronic):
So I ask, even if Sam recasted the face of the Myers Animatronic, which by the way I don’t believe he did because he’d never spend $250 to get that thing, what is the problem? Some of the people that were upset about it yesterday have bought a Nightmare Man, a Psycho, a Nightmare, a Myers based on a life cast, and praised at the highest level Bryan’s recasted Melody Kirk. For those that were so mad about it, what is the problem? And if you were so mad, I guess you should throw away most of your collection.
JON DANO:
I feel ya Chris…almost EVERY myers mask we have is a recast…I don’t have one mask in my collection that is a recast anymore because I like to have original’s.
Look at all those H6’s floating around…all recasts.
SLASHER X:
The way I see it is that all of the “COVETED” masks in the Myers fan base are all recast. Plain and simple. All of the 75 Kirk recasts which are far too many to list. The H6’s, H20’s, Resurrections, Silver Shamrocks’, etc. ALL RECAST!
No one is sculpting their own H3 set, or any of the other “Screen Accurate” masks when there are sources available that link to the actual screen used sources. That is just the way it is.
There are some talented sculptors here, but how often do you see original sculpt masks in demand? Not nearly as often as those that are of the recast “screen accurate” variety.
H8SHAPE:
You cannot say it’s ok for a older mask to be recast & not a new one. A recast is a recast period… I know besides Sam, Myers04 sculpts, Mabry does & the Addison member… I’m sure there is more but the rest are in fact recasts!
SLASHER X:
Recasting mass production such as Don Post and others really should not be allowed. But without allowing that we wouldn’t have the quality of H1,2,3,4,& 8 masks out there. So that is a real dilemma. Ideally mask makers should use the originals not as tools to clay press or recast, but as reference only. Get measurements, angles, geometry, etc and use that to aid in sculpting a replica. That is what would be ideal.
I AM IN NO WAY CALLING ANYONE OUT
Again,
that’s why I deal with HSS & a couple others…
-Big D
Skadow!
as far as anybody is concerend regarding my purchase of the other mask:
I bought somebodys personal item, not to justify how it was made or to cheat or benefit anyone for anything. purely and simply it was no different than buying a one off my friend did in his basement to add to my personal collection. No more than two minutes after I made that regretful post countless people have pm’d me trying to get it from me and I havent even recieved it yet. I am not going to sell it or even mention this subject ever again. I regret even posting anything. Do us all a favor and forget about it, have the mods remove anything that even mentions it, erase any memory of it because its never going to be bought sold seen or posted again.
As far as I’m concerned This is a very legitimate topic of ethics. The TRUTH is what is important here. What I see, and have seen over, and over again in the majority is a VERY CARELESS REGAURD FOR THE TRUTH! However I think that as long as the dishonest out number the honest this will not cease anytime soon. See this is much bigger than a few people, and a few masks. This is the entire country, and even further yet The WORLD.
Correct me if I’m wrong ED, but In my opinion the Ethic is the point.
You either respect the TRUTH or you don’t. However you can rest assured that there is only one TRUTH. The way I see it You take credit for what it is that YOU have done, and give credit where it is due. That being the case I can see why some of these people would rather not be SPECIFIC about what they can honestly credit these “talented artists” with achieving.
One other point I want to express is this. If people allow themselves to beleive the lie then they themselves will be incapable of telling the truth, and in turn the True from the False, The accurate from the inaccurate. To narrow back in on the topic of the majority. When it comes to good masks. Everyone looses. If you want an environment that people can thrive in then there has to be an honest government. Without it the quallity of the work, and the reason for any of it to begin with will diminish. This is a very legitimate conversation to have because it is up to each, and every one of us to gaurd, seek and protect the TRUTH. Take care, Ezra
wow man really???
you have no life bro
yes I know that 6 is a recast
I have 2 of them
but I didnt pay for them and I wont sell them to make money off them
sooooooo with that said :finga:
and I dont understand WHY this bothers you so much
unless your behind something
and are waiting for everyone to give in and say “Oh its ok”
GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!
but either way spaz, you own 2 recasts, and had many compliments in your thread, some of those people are the very ones who had something negative to say about me. On a personal note for all i care every mask could be a recast idc, most are anyway. what bothers me is the ethics as ezra stated, and the fact that some are bashed when others are not. sadly enough the ones who are not are in fact higher up people wich is the main reason why people tend to say things like favoritism and high horse people. its fact. The way i see it everyone here is cool, i have nothing against anyone here personally and i consider us all a big family. Spaz, i even respect you and admit that your repaints were in fact very nice. I simply have an opinion people, and i shared it. Im not as much of a bad guy as everyone thinks 
Yeah I have to agree with you guys…1971 is a great dude and one of the most friendly members here…The man didnt do anything wrong IMO…He made a mask for himself…He isnt releasing it to the public to profit…Its bound to happen again with dozens of the Anim.Heads out there…Hell I would pay a mask maker to claypress it if they were willing to…After hearing alot of things about certain mask and the 75 I dont see a difference either…Hell without the 75 being pressed we wouldnt have some of the mask we do…Im not gonna complain…We have some sweet RZ’s out there…Sam and Nik’s RZ’s are killer…I seriously dont see them loosing sales…I mean look at those mask…They are both insane…I have sam’s and will be picking Niks up to…I dont want to get too involved with this thread but I dont see the difference and 1971 is a good guy who didnt do anything wrong IMO…Later fella’s
I agree with you ed.People pick and choose who to bash.From what I have read alot of people think its ok on the kirk because its no longer produced and its rarity.That would be like saying: take the 30th mask for example.Its rare and no longer made is it ok to recast this?I dont think so.People would have a shit fit.I know its a touchy subject but I think all artist should be treated equally no matter how well known they are.