What would you do?

Wolfman · March 21, 2019, 9:24pm

For sure! If you think someone tried to scam you put them on blast or tell a moderator and they will handle it. Thats the only way to get rid of the scammers .

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FutureReference · March 21, 2019, 9:26pm

Amen! Sounds like this guy was hoping he’d be sent the funds through Friends & Family and tried to work around the Buyer Protection with an elaborate lie. Very happy that the OP didn’t get robbed by this scammer

VanGogh · March 21, 2019, 9:47pm

It was dalejrcade.

Le_Shape · March 21, 2019, 10:11pm

So I’m getting my ToTs H40 sent to Jakefro191 tomorrow (who’s pic of his work is in the pic below), I’m a little nervous since this is my first time sending my mask to someone, but hopefully it can look great and be in my possession. This thread is making me a bit more anxious about it but I guess I’m overreacting and it’s nothing to worry about…

VanGogh · March 21, 2019, 10:16pm

Just don’t click the confirmation button that says you received your package and all is well until it actually is, not before its even been boxed, lol.

FutureReference · March 21, 2019, 10:21pm

Hopefully one of the moderators updates the scammer list with this guy’s account. Do you have his full name from PayPal? After your explanation it is clear he got caught trying to steal money and refunded before getting in any legal trouble. Sadly many people agree to Friends and Family and don’t have a leg to stand on

VanGogh · March 21, 2019, 10:26pm

It’s a 50/50 chance, you know? It’s just sounded wrong though. I mean, he needed money so bad for a family emergency and I was trying to work with him in which the money would clear asap. But he wanted me to click that it was delivered and that wasn’t happening. I can’t say he is a scammer, I just want people to be careful… Sometimes you want something so bad, you go clicking things you shouldn’t, haha. Like I said, be safe out there!

Harleybobber00 · March 21, 2019, 10:56pm

Man, I thought I typed it well… I sent 550 immediately. He marked it as shipped immediately then wanted me to confirm that I received it. All 3 events occurred it a 10 minute span… He said he need led the money in order to ship it. That’s when I offerered to send 2 payments, bot h of which would be done within minutes

Gotcha! Makes more sense now! Yeah that is kind of sketchy I guess. I wouldn’t confirm I received anything until I did but I also send all of my money up front.

I did pay in full. Then he claimed he needed me to confirm delivery because he didn’t have the money to ship it so then I offered to send 50 and confirm that so he could get the 50 immediately while still sending the 500 at the same time but not confirming. I was just trying to help dude out so we could make a deal, but the whole situation is funny IMO. I mean, who would be stupid enough to send a stranger 550 and give up your right to argue whether it was delivered, or even what you ordered! That’s a lot of money. I REALLY wanted this mask but the whole situation felt wrong. Thats a lot of money.

RE: saw the members name in above post.

Harleybobber00 · March 21, 2019, 10:59pm

Harleybobber00:

Its really simple problem honestly. If the buyer is ever uncomfortable at all sending money friends and family. Then don’t. Move on and forget that mask. Sellers here already have to deal with teenagers on here private messaging them here wanting a $500 mask and wanting to trade for some tots crap, a pack of baseball cards, 3 sticks of bubble gum and their allowance of $5 when their mother gives it to them on Saturdays. And thats after the seller post no trades . So i don’t blame sellers wanting friends and family only one bit.
If it seems sketchy from the get go. Move on and put that money towards something else. This hobby is 40% good people and 60% scammers.

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Not really true. If people want to pay for the fees then it’s 100% reasonable for the buyer to want to do goods and services if they cover fees. That is the only way for a buyer to not get screwed out of their money and I’ve never had a circumstance where it asks me to confirm delivery so the seller gets there money. I always do goods and services and the seller always gets their money instantly. I just have an avenue if the product is not what I paid for or if I never receive it.

Yeah and what im saying is don’t send friends and family if your not sure about the buyer, or if he doesnt have alot of positive feedback here. Thats pretty clear. Buyers could always get the mask and say they never got it. Unless it was sent with signature confirmation there is no proof that the buyer actually got the mask. Just because the post man sits the package on a porch or at a front desk doesn’t mean that the seller is covered 100% and can relax. Thats why alot of senior members here say friends and family only. Cause like i also said 60% of this hobby is scammers. Once again, no one is forcing anyone to send friends and family, its the buyers option to do so, move on and order from tots or someone that takes payment goods and services. Ive lost a claim years ago by selling to a new member here and not getting it friends and family. It got delivered to him, but after a couple days he said he didn’t get it. That someone must have stole the package. Months later he got caught selling the mask on ebay. Lesson learned for me. Either get friends and family, or get signature confirmation.

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I agree 100% there! If someone is pushing for goods and services but won’t do signature confirmation as well then they are most likely scamming! I am big on goods and services so I have an avenue for myself but if the response was ok can we do signature confirmation so I have an avenue as well then I would be perfectly ok with that! People these days are out to get something for nothing! I know I’m fairly new around here but it’s insane how scam happy a lot of people are!

VanGogh · March 21, 2019, 11:18pm

Signature confirmation was never discussed, nor did it even pop into my head.

It’s all good. The H78 is an old mask. I’m gonna be ordering a “shape 78” from Niko tomorrow. I talked to him 2 hours ago

Caleb_Croft · March 21, 2019, 11:21pm

Cool! Great choice man The Castle 75K’s, 98 Protos and Shape 78’s are unstoppable!