What's one thing you like and one thing you dislike about Halloween 4?

I really like the final scene of the movie. It was pretty shocking. I also prefer to interpret that Jamie killed her foster mom, it’s way creepier, and makes more sense, since her screaming ended quick and abruptly. It’s probably my fourth favorite ending in this franchise.

I thought Danielle Harris did a great job in this moment, and came off as very scary, way scarier than Michael was in this movie.

I really don’t like Michael in this movie. He barely stalks, and comes off too much like a Jason or Terminator wannabe. Just a big juggernaut killing multiple people at once, instead of the stealthy killer from the first movie who liked to play with his victims. I also didn’t like how he looked, it wasn’t scary.

I may get some flak for this, but I’ve never been a fan of the H4 ending. This little girl suddenly becoming a possessed murderer just came out of nowhere, and seeing Loomis’ reaction to it makes me feel terrible for him. But the one thing I love most about H4 is the atmosphere… the film is absolutely dripping with it like no other in the series. I always feel the need to say this when discussing H4, but yes, I really do like the mask, and find it to be the creepiest in the series. Overall, I love H4, and it’s my third favorite in the series.

I will try to avoid the mask:

Like - The way Tom Morga moves
Dislike - The relative bloodlessness of the kills, which should be some of the bloodiest in the franchise.

Liked the Halloween/ fall atmosphere
Disliked the way michael looked and moved

:100:% Why they gave Wilbur those shoulder pads is beyond me​:face_with_spiral_eyes: But yeah…that atmosphere is wicked :maple_leaf::jack_o_lantern:

I absolutely loved the ending.
I strongly dislike the cheesiness. Maybe it’s the dialogue or something about the writing, but there’s just something very cheesy about the film for me.

The atmosphere is perfect in H4 imo, it’s just full-on Halloween/Autumn with the way everything looks and how the streets are decorated. Dislike would be how they made Wilbur wear hockey pads underneath the suit, ended up making Myers look like he had no neck, just a mask with shoulders glued onto it.

Like - The opening and atmosphere. IMO the creepiest version of Haddonfield.
Dislike - Those shoulder pads. Far far worse than the mask and completely ruins the look.

The thing I like: Donald Pleasance’s performance.

The thing I dislike: that it’s another needless sequel to a masterpiece of filmmaking that never needed a sequel.


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My biggest complaint is I feel it’s too short. It needs to be 15-20 minutes longer. Because it’s so damn awesome.

LIKE
The relationship between Jamie and Rachel. So sweet.

DISLIKE
The look and portrayal of Michael Myers. The mask was god-awful. George (bless him) walks too much like a robot (like Warlock) and the football shoulder pads? WTF?

LIKE: The cool little Halloween section in the mom and pop pharmacy. Reminds me of all the ones I used to frequent as a kid before Walgreens and CVS took over.

DISLIKE: Pretty much everything else about the film - The portrayal of Michael Myers, Loomis overacting, uninteresting story, boring characters, Haddonfield looking and feeling too different from the original, the good ol’ boys who are on the hunt for Michael, Michael on the bed of a pick up truck, good gosh… need I go on…?

Well more than one thing mentioned in my case…

The good:
Second best movie in the franchise, closest to the original in spirit and feel (H2 is well made but a departure in how it plays out in some very key ways, adds the sister thing, attempts a more closed ending, Loomis and Michael aren’t like their H1 versions).
Loomis feels like a continuation of H1 Loomis (unlike 2 and 5).
Michael is The Shape and not just some generic killer guy (feels ghostly, is cunning, plays with his victims and stalks them for a time before striking, unstoppable, could be anywhere or even everywhere). The intellect and ghostly nature help set him apart from other slasher villains of his type (as in not whodunnit slashers).
Focuses on atmosphere.
Feels like autumn despite being shot in spring.
Jamie and Rachael are an excellent continuation of Tommy and Laurie with a twist.
Does not toss in absurd plot points that are out of place when compared to H1 like every other sequel. Reverend Sayer and Loomis’ scene(s).
The score and the look. It just has a very breezy autumnal feel to it.
The opening and the ending (the opening is neck and neck with the H1 opening, and the ending is right behind H1’s).
It takes its’ time, feels paced for atmosphere.
I want to reiterate that The Shape actually stalks most of his intended victims throughout. Not doing this is a severe and I mean SEVERE fault in the Blumhouse trilogy. Outside of a few incidents where quick kills were needed to get rid of obstacles like the ambulance, diner, Bucky, police station, and truck (which were all mostly offscreen or partially and briefly onscreen; police station all offscreen, only one of the four ambulance kills onscreen, only one of the few diner kills onscreen and it was brief). Most of the film is him stalking Jamie and Rachael, he taunts Loomis at the diner, essentially haunts the Meeker house for a while and does the same thing with Kelly Meeker that he did with Linda and Annie in the original Halloween. He even shows up when the teens were pretending to be him (so even if they saw him behind the police car they would think he was another of the teens).
Haddonfield feels like a small midwestern town.
It may have some campy characters but they aren’t trying to be intentionally funny and failing. Every other sequel aside from 2 and 6 have those jokey characters that let you know you’re watching a movie; some are just bad comedy, and some feel like they only exist in movies and tv (Tina, Spitz, clown cops, LL Cool J’s character and to a degree Joseph Gordon Leavitt, Jodi O’Keefe’s, and Adam Byrd’s characters- all very Kevin Williamsy which is in that same ballpark of how Joss Whedon writes, most of the cast of Resurrection, a mess of characters in the Blumhouse trilogy, a bunch in the Rob Zombie movies-especially the first one).


Problems:
Rednecks were a bit cheesy (fun cheesy, but I’d rather it was straight serious in tone without the camp).
Tossing Bucky into the transformer was a bit cheesy as well (probably came across better in the minds of the writers than it did on screen as they had to get the transformer taken out somehow).
Could do without the love triangle (Kelly wasn’t necessary at all, neither was Brady but her more so).
I wish they did not do the padding in the scenes it was used on George Wilbur, they made him look weird and made his movements stiffer.
The truck assault scene at the end could have been shot better. I realize how difficult it must have been shooting it and that they didn’t have the time or budget they may have needed but I like the overall idea more than the entirety of the execution in terms of how it was shot.
No chase scene where The Shape was walking after Jamie or Rachael at the pace that he was in H1 when he was chasing Laurie from the Wallace house (he wasn’t robotic like Warlock in H4, just leisurely paced, which often worked well but it needed something more panic inducing).
Mask would have worked better if the hair, paint, and eyes were done similarly to the original (no sideburns or eyebrows and matted darker hair alone would have worked without the eyecut and paint changes).
I wish Loomis didn’t act like they finally got The Shape by burying him, throughout H1 and all the rest of H4 he knew The Shape would always be back, so that line at the Carruthers house was out of place.

The Mask! Horrible Mask. Didn’t like michaels character in this one at all. Would have been a great movie if they had a good myers

Dislike the shoulder pads and the scene with the blue collar guys unloading on something they couldn’t even see lol. They need some serious gun safety courses.

I actually loved the mask.