What's your pitch for a Halloween sequel that skips everything after the original?

Before I start, I just want to state that I am not a fan of any of the sequels to Carpenter’s classic film. It’s perfect as it is and has been diminished by sequels that have failed to justify their existence outside of the Akkads wanting to make more and more money. That’s just my opinion, of course, though it is objectively true that none of the sequels were made with the same skill and craft in front of and behind the camera that was seen with HalloweeN.

All of that said, I was looking forward to H18 when it was first announced. Carpenter being involved with the story, JLC returning, and that mask, which is my favorite thing about the movie. I left the the theater extremely disappointed because what Gordon Green and everyone else said about the movie was a lie: it wasn’t made in “the spirit of the original” but was instead a hodgepodge of elements of past sequels filled with underdeveloped and unlikable characters.

I started this thread not to pick apart the new film as much as to gauge how Laurie and The Shape’s story could have gone with all the other sequels wiped away. I’d like to hear your ideas for how such a sequel could have worked. The only two “rules” are that we’re talking about a sequel set forty years later and one in which Myers has been captured after disappearing following his fall. I personally think the ideal sequel to Halloween (if there had to be one at all) would have been set a few years after “The Night He Came Home,” with Laurie in college in a story similar to Scream 2 or out of college in a story like Carpenter’s “Someone’s Watching Me.”

On to my idea. Myers is found and re-incarcerated despite Loomis’ protests. Loomis focuses on getting Myers sent to prison while also counseling Laurie, Tommy, and Lindsay. Laurie and Loomis have a special bond and when she graduates from high school, she decides to pursue a career in psychology to work with victims of violent crime. Meanwhile, Tommy and Lindsay remain close and begin dating in high school. They eventually marry and leave Haddonfield, though they are close to Laurie and always keep in touch. She never marries, instead dedicating her life to her work and then, when Loomis dies, to his mission: to see Michael Myers either sentenced to death or moved to a maximum security prison where his chances of escape are next to zero. We learn most of this in exposition in the present, forty years later.

Tommy and Lindsay testify with Laurie over the years to build a case that Myers should be moved out of Smith’s Grove. Part of their case is research done by Laurie that confirms something the original film only hints at: Michael Myers was a normal six-year old boy before Halloween Night, 1978. She backs this up with her own research and work with victims of violent crime. Finally, Myers is ordered to be moved from Smith’s Grove to a maximum security prison. Myers has been in the state he was in between 1963 and 1978. Once he learns he’s being transferred, he kills his way out of the truck transporting him to prison and eventually returns to Haddonfield. Laurie and the Doyles find out and call the Haddonfield PD. Laurie knows where Michael is going: home. The Myers house was eventually purchased and demolished, but a new house was built on the property. Michael arrives late on the afternoon of October 31st and kills the residents. Laurie, the Doyles, and the police find the family murdered but Michael gone. They’re unable to find him, though he’s in Haddonfield, stalking a group of teenagers he saw pass in front of the house as trick or treating begins. The body count rises before Michael and the Doyles find and confront The Shape in a final confrontation forty years in the making.

If you read all of this, thank you! I look forward to reading other ideas.

Just have him not be captured. Then he comes back but hes been killing people in different states and cities. Maybe have a detective that has been tracking these cold case files and finally puts the dots together. As he is apprehended he escapes and makes his way back to haddonfield where laurie is waiting for him.

I really like that man! Definitely would of been a solid way to go. One of the things I like about it is that Laurie takes up something that would make sense to her traumatic experience with Michael. Instead of letting it consume her, she takes what happened and applies it to an area relating to the experience that took place. Very interesting man! I dig it!

Halloween III, Part 2.

Very cool thread! I’ve given some thought to this after the release of H18, as well. While I think I enjoyed it a bit more than you based on your comments, I agree it had its fair share of issues.

I think the premise of H18 was solid…40 years later…Carpenter and Curtis back on board…no sibling relationship…etc. My biggest gripe was that I thought the family aspect with Karen and Allyson had a.) been done before with H20 and b.) wasn’t done particularly well. Didn’t connect with Karen at all and Allyson was iffy. Also, another gripe – survival-prep Laurie was over the top and didn’t have any shared DNA with the bookworm we met in 1978. After that night, do you think Laurie would’ve had a gun or two and prepared for the Shape’s escape? Sure. But to build elaborate underground bunkers, booby trap every room in the house, have a dedicated shooting range, have a complete arsenal with guns, crossbows, etc.? To me, it just felt forced.

So, to answer your question, I would’ve loved to have seen a toned-down version of H18 with no Rambo Laurie, and with characters like Allyson and Vicky as random Haddonfield babysitters on Halloween night. I think the podcast idea was good and relevant, but why introduce different characters when you’ve got the teenage protagonists that we could’ve gotten to know better?

I would’ve had Allyson be assigned a school project – create a podcast based on local lore. With Halloween approaching, what better topic than the 1978 murders? Laurie would’ve been a recluse on the outskirts of Haddonfield. Allyson and Vicky go to her house to try and interview her for the podcast. Normally Laurie doesn’t answer questions about that night, but Allyson reminds her of herself when she was that age, so she hesitantly participates in their project.

Of course, the Shape escapes and chaos ensues while Allyson, Vicky, Dave, and Cameron are babysitting. Laurie hears about the escape over her CB radio and goes full-tilt-Loomis. I would’ve loved to have seen more suspense and tension. I felt like a lot was crammed in H18 that jacked up the pacing. Also wasn’t a fan of the editing.

Just my two cents, though.

This, but not a detective, make it Loomis

Halloween: Last Blood! LOL

Completely agree that Myers shouldn’t be captured. I hated that in H18 but went with it in my pitch because H18 went that route and so that Laurie and the Doyles had a shared goal over four decades. Carpenter’s original idea for H4 had Michael simply reappearing after Halloween had been banned in Haddonfield for ten years. Kept the idea of Myers as a “force of nature” intact and provides the mystery of just where he’s been and what he’s been doing since he fell off the balcony.

Thank you! We heard a lot of from JLC and others about the “empowered Laurie” in H18, but I felt like she was a victim stuck in 1978 instead of someone who had overcome her trauma and made a difference in other people’s lives. Laurie was a fighter in the original and put her life on the line for Tommy and Lindsay. Seems to me that’s how she should have been portrayed in the forty years between films, not as a survivalist who went overboard in preparing for Michael’s return.

YES! It made no sense to me that Laurie would have turned her house into an armored trap for Michael. It was definitely forced and felt like an attempt at making her a “strong woman” when she was already that in the first movie. Either living as a recluse like you suggest or following in Loomis’ footsteps as a mental health professional. Love your idea of replacing Laurie’s daughter and granddaughter with the podcasters. The movie didn’t make us feel anything for them and I felt that Laurie would have avoided starting a family either out of dedication to her work or fear that Michael could return at any time. I also like the idea that the podcasters are kids from Haddonfield researching the Night He Came Home.

The movie definitely needed more tension and suspense. For all the talk of being faithful to the original film, there was pacing, characterization, and editing that did not create an atmosphere and tense experience like the original. It’s not hard to do and I think that would have been preferable to rehashing slasher conventions we’ve seen now for decades.

This franchise has a problem with doing sequels that erase other sequels. That trend needs to stop.

What approach would you take? Continue on from Part 6? Full reboot?

Not Conan and this certainly isn’t a new idea but I’ve always thought it would have been ideal for H20 to tie into H4-H6 instead of ignoring it completely. Laurie fakes her death in the car crash and leaves Jamie behind believing she’d have a better life without her. She wants to start over and leave Haddonfield in the past so she moves to Northern California, changes her name to Kerri Tate, and becomes the headmistress of a prestigious private school. After this is all established the film can pretty much go beat by beat as it did in H20. I would add in some exposition concerning Laurie finding out what happened to Jamie to tie up some loose ends. The ending would stay exactly the same and if I had any control over the franchise it would end after Laurie cuts Michael’s head off. No Resurrection or retconning reboots.

In the end, I prefer H20 over H40 but I believe it was ultimately poorly handled and contributed to the series becoming the mess it is today with all the retconning. This would be my ideal H20 more than anything.

I think the only sequel that’s worthwhile story-wise is H20, even with its ties to H2, which I’m also not a fan of. I liked that Laurie was active and made a difference in the lives of others. There were issues behind the scenes that marred an otherwise great end to the story. I also agree that the ending should have been left intact, but Moustappha wasn’t going to let that happen. I still think the best sequel idea was Carpenter’s Someone’s Watching Me. He could have reused that idea with adjustments and ended the story properly.


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Michael Myers escape. Loomis drink because he did not do job well. Laurie act out in harmful ways because she believes her life over and boogeyman come for her no matter what.