Why Halloween 4 is probably Michael Myers' favorite.

If you have ever considered who Michael Myers is, what he’s about, and how he would probably define himself, it all comes down to one thing…Halloween 4 is probably Michael Myers’ favorite. Lets break it down. The first Halloween was the beginning of Myers. A six year old boy who murdered his sister. Did he really understand why he did it? Look at his face after his dad pulled the clown mask off of him. He almost looked in shock. Like “what the hell did I just do” type look. Was he sorry? No. But at the same time, could a six year old child (especially back in the 1960’s) grasp murder of another person, much less taking a human life himself? No. It’s almost like he couldn’t understand the evil that was in him and would inevitably take him over completely. Now jump to the following May when Loomis declares him “the most dangerous patient” he had ever observed. He goes into Michael’s room where he is staring at the window. “You’ve fooled them haven’t you Michael? But not me” Loomis says. Michael’s facial expressions looks like that he wants to say something but something is not allowing him to. Could he be crying out for help on the inside but is unable to call for help because of the evil that has made a home inside him? Now 15 years later, the evil has completely taken over. Whatever was human within him is now gone forever. He breaks out of Smiths Grove and is headed back to Haddonfield to go after his other sister, Laurie. The question is why did Michael spend most of the movie stalking his prey when true evil is so blood thirsty that it would probably kill everyone it comes in contact with? Could it be that there was a little humanity in Michael left. That he knew that his actions would eventually lead to his demise? KEEP READING…There’s a good possibility that is exactly what he thought, but with the evil being so strong and the temptation to kill overpowered him that the body count began to rise, eventually leading to him being shot 6 times by his own doctor and falling from a second story balcony. Michael (like everyone else would) thought that was the end of his life. But much to everyone’s surprise (Michael’s surprise especially I believe) it didn’t kill him. At this point I believe that Michael gave in more to the evil, especially since it made him invincible and can’t die. Seriously, how many of you, after that, would have given in to the same immortality? This makes perfect sense as to why in Halloween 2 Michael is meaner and more ruthless. He gave in to his blood lust and to the evil inside him completely. He lifts up Jill with one hand after stabbing her in the back with the scalpel only because now he knows he can. By now he knows that even being shot, he can’t die. After he walks through the glass door and Loomis shoots him again six times, he doesn’t seem to care because now he knows he can’t die. His own doctor proved that to him. Notice now that even when Laurie is aiming the gun at him, he could care less. Only now he didn’t expect to get shot in the eyes and be blinded only to be surprised by Loomis blowing up the place sending Michael into a blaze. AND NOW FOR THE BIG FINISH…Jump to 10 years later. After embrassing the evil completely, I don’t believe Michael was really in a coma. I believe he laid there with that strong patience that he has for 10 years (he waited 15 years without completely embrassing it, 10 years is a piece of cake after embrassing it completely). The evil basically taking on a life of it’s own within him, keeping him there motionless until the first opportunity came for it to escape, October 30th, 1988 was that night. To me it is no coincidence that on that particular night, after being behind walls for ten years and now outside of those walls, that he decides to “wake up”. By now all humanity in him is gone. He knows better than anyone that nothing can kill him, stop him, or postpone him. He kills now without worry, without fear of consequence, and without remorse. Study his methods here. His kills are more brutal, more bloody. I mean he even jumps off the roof of a huge house just to scare his niece by standing there (in the past he gets shot and falls off of the balcony, now he’s jumping off of roofs by choice). It’s now for kicks. After fully embrassing the evil, he now has strength like never before. Strength that can allow him to kill only by a single thumb that he drives into the doctor’s head without a little more elbow strength. Courage so strong that he stands up in front of a firing squad with an “I dare you” attitude. An evil so over taking that it gets passed on to his niece by a single touch. A plot so recognized that movie makers want to continue Michael at all costs, including dummying up the franchise so Michael doesn’t die off again like John Carpenter intended at the end of part 2. Halloween 4 proves that the evil within Michael is so powerful and so immortal, that it’s own creator, John Carpenter, tries to kill it, and fails.

Interesting idea, though I’m not sure how it makes 1988 Michael Myers’ favorite Halloween.

This is interesting. I wish there were more threads like this TBH. I can only talk about latex so much haha. Well, for starters, the most “rain on your parade” response would be “you’re reading too deeply into it”, but I won’t take that route. Instead, I’ll say that the film-makers themselves don’t take these stories as seriously as the fans do. I think John Carpenter is rather known for that actually. Ok, so here’s my take on it.

There’s not much continuity from film to film, only enough to make it plausible. H2, as good as it was, could have been MUCH better as far as the story is concerned. I was never a fan of the “Laurie is Michael’s sister” concept, and Rob Zombie was even stupider for injecting it into his own so-called reimagining. But anyway, the one thing you seemed to forget was the Halloween theme (not the song :laughing: ) of Samhain effecting Michael’s actions. I personally think that Michael WAS in a coma from H2 to H4 becasue of the fire, or at least if he woke up at all, it was only on Halloween. I always thought that he was “taken over” while he was 6 years old, and that whatever possessed him is what made him kill his sister. He was just as evil in H1 as he was in all the others (he killed a dog!). The stalking of his victims is something that very evil people do. If anything, stalking makes them even more evil because they lie in wait for the right moment to pounce. Plus he toyed with his victims as well (dropping the flower pot so Annie could hear it). The only thing that “evolved” with him seemed to be his physical strength. The desire to kill might have crystalized deep within him over time, but once evil has you in its grip, it doesn’t change.

The unfortunate thing about all these horror movies that have tons of sequels is that the writers/directors of the sequels seem to have very little respect for the originals that preceded them, and is why there’s such glaring errors in continuity, etc. When it becomes mostly about the money, the stories suffer, which is a shame. Halloween 2 could have been much much better. Halloween 4 was a good movie, and an improvement on H2, but when you get to films like H5…that’s when it’s time to turn the channel IMO. H6 tried really hard, and I like certain things about it. H20 was the Hollywood film of the series, and H8 isn’t worth a comment. Again, JMO.

When it comes to Michael’s “favorite” story of the film series, I tend to think that H6 might be his favorite. it was such a “haunted fun-house” of a movie that we can only reminisce about. Writers don’t attempt to make movies like that anymore. Today it’s all about exploitation and despair, which is precisely the point, and why I don’t watch movie s like Hostile or Saw, and never will.

Great thread.

One of the things I did like best about H4 despite the clownish mask was how well it kept continuity with Carpenter’s movies. The storyline really did keep continuity well with H| and H||, and one of the things I especially liked was how when we get close-up shots of Michael’s hands or when we see Dr. Loomis’ face there’s burn scars, Michael’s especially - implying he took the brunt of the explosion. Another thing to remember is that we never do get a good look at Michael’s face, so it’s entirely plausible that all that’s there would be black pits devoid of eyes, sealing the “blackest eyes” motif that Carpenter set up. To me, H4 was that last of the great classic Halloween movies, stopping where H5 and H6 completely through the continuity out the window and the reboots of H20 and H: Rez.

To me Michael enjoyed H1 the best because he waited 15 years to get out,found his target and slashed quite a few on the way. You can obviously see that in H2 he was pissed off because she got away for one, he had to leave his comfort zone his neighborhood, and getting shot multiple times isnt fun at all. :neutral_face: John Carpenter only finished the H2 script by getting drunk, this is a stated fact by him. In his eyes Michael died in H2 and he died for me in H2 as well :drinkers: JMO