Haired eyebrows in 1978's Halloween? No way...YES WAY!

Here’s what I have to say…

The Halloween people when to Don Post Studios and wanted some Kirk masks modified and that’s exactly what the studios did; painted them white, widened the eye holes and spray-paint the hair black. They did exactly what they were told to do, modify Capt. Kirk. The masks had sideburns and hair on their eyebrows and were even modified more when the Halloween people brought the masks back to the set…they took off the sideburns and eyebrows. (DPS was in the Halloween manufacturing time and maybe they didn’t have time to completely modify them like the Halloween people wanted or maybe the Halloween people didn’t want DPS to know how they were changing the mask.) That is what I think. Also, think about this…why do the deluxe masks from DPS have haired eyebrows? Because that’s how they looked when they left DPS. Obviously, the sideburns were taken off and DPS saw that but maybe Don thinks they had eyebrows still in the movie…exactly like when they left DPS. Make sense? That is why Bill Malone’s sister mask looks like it does because that is what they saw leaving Don Post Studios.

Anyways, here are the scans. Obviously it’s a stunt mask, I believe this is the one Tommy Lee is wearing in the crew/cast wrap party; the eyebrows are dark in the photo as well. Again, the glue Don Post Studios used was clear, so it’s not a glue stain and the shadow theory…naw. I think Tommy Lee did the first conversion and then they went to DPS and used those from DPS as back-up/stunt masks. Maybe they thought DPS would have done a better conversion then Tommy Lee did?

I also think the above mask maybe this mask due to the eyebrows and also the eye cuts…due to the closeness of the eye cuts to the original. This also appears to be one of the only masks with dark eyebrows.

PS-What would this board do if I didn’t post pics of the masks from Halloween or Halloween II…use screen grabs all the time? LOL…it’s great to see photos I scanned being used to try to prove points.

I believe that’s part of the V line in the forehead :bulb:

The light is coming from the left which causes the brows to look extremely dark in the pics you posted Billy. All I see is the sculpted in eyebrows just darkened up from shadow.
Here’s one I edited…
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Now I do assume there could be some hair left, but just a tad after they were pulled off.

I do agree the ones sent all had haired eyebrows but I can’t imagine them leaving them completely haired during shooting.

Agreed,Agreed,and thrice Agreed,i believe the eyebrows were ripped off,they would not have left them on,if they went to all that trouble of ripping off the sideburns there hardly gonna leave the eyebrows on are they,it’s pretty much a no brainer.

I’m really glad I contributed to this thread… Just to be ignored. :drinkers:

This is one of the funniest statements ive heard in a while,way to make my day a happy one Kirkus :laughing:

I don’t see hair on the brows. I mean, what does it matter? If you put hair on any replica Myers mask it’s going to look wrong. Even if one photo shows a chance of some hair that doesn’t change that 99% of the other images/video of the mask has no hair. I would have to say that Don’s wrong on the ‘clear’ glue. He’s been wrong before on details. They used a glue made for glueing soles to shoes and it wasn’t clear. Several former employees have stated this. I tried to find some of it but its no longer made. No need to ask him, it’s clear on every 70s mask the glue dries brown as well as the glue marks on the mask in both films.

You can’t use Malone’s ‘sister’ mask a reference to the movie’s mask. In the past you said the movie’s mask had a blue color to it but if we then again use Malone’s ‘sister’ mask the mask obviously is white and has no blue.

You can change the contrast or brighten up the picture, but the eyebrows remain dark and the white paint below the eyebrows protrude through and the sideburns lines get lighter. I know, I’ve done this several times in the past couple of days.

Glue; why would DPS want a yellow/brown glue line to show across the front of a mask? They made clear glue back then…my 1989/90 The Mask had a clear glue line, my 80’s Banshee mask from American Werewolf and my 70’s Werewolf I used to have didn’t not have a brown glue lines across the front either. Don said it changes over time, he works with the product everyday.

For Josh…Blue tint to the mask; Cundey and Carpenter both have stated a blue tint was added to the mask…maybe on set. Both worked on the movie, you and I weren’t there so you have to take their words for it. Don and Rob both stated that they saw blue added to the masks probably for photographic reasons. Again, you weren’t there and I wasn’t there.

Opinions in this thread are opinions. We all have them…some see hair, some don’t. Some see glue, some don’t. Some see a shadow, some don’t. But, in the end, we’re all just one great BIG happy dysfunctional, argumentative, animosity ridden family.

anth0777; I’m glad I made you smile because everyday you join one of my threads…you make me laugh and smile too. :wink:

But were the coveralls green or blue??

:butthead:

I saw pink coveralls. Heavily weathered pink coveralls.

I know there was clear glue back then, but they used brown glue in the mid 70s at DPS. I remember there was a reason why when I had this glue color discussion with a former DPS employee but I cannot recall the reason they used the shoe glue. If you look at catalogs from the 70s you’ll see the brown glue marks on many of the hairlines:

With the movie’s mask, I’m not saying that one or two pictures may or may not have hair on the brows, who knows, but there WAS dark glue used on most, if not all, mid-70s masks. Sure, you have mid and late 80s masks with clear glue, that would be 5-10 years after these mid 70s masks were produced.

As far as the blue color to the mask, I say absolutely not. Cundy gets all credit for the creepy, blue lighting that made the mask look the way it did. Again, just because someone who was there said it was a certain way, doesn’t mean it WAS a certain way. There needs to be evidence for this claim and there just isn’t. We all know these guys make up $hit to fans, regurgitate information fans have told them, etc. When it doesn’t fit what we know to be true, then it probably isn’t.

I do aim to Entertain and keep folk happy around here and i can sleep a lot better at night safe in the knowledge that im keeping a smile on the faces of folks such as yourself :slight_smile:
in regards to the second part of this quotation,thats actually called Blue Light :laughing:

Also, this mask

is the hero. Look at the left side hairline.

Same mask.

I’m not seeing any hair on any of them besides the very top mask :smiley: maybe it’s just me… :rolleyes: :cry: :cry:

I clearly see the sculpted eyebrows in your original pic Billy.

I,v always noticed that but thought they were painted darker on that copy they look sculpted 2 me

that pic to me shows no hair… i’m sorry… just my opinion…

If you look closely, you can see sculpted eyebrows, painted white (Lower part) being covered by black hair (Upper part).

Right…Left
Look at the right eyebrow, you can see a whisp of hair right above the black hair.

Below…on the left eyebrow you can see the sculpted eyebrow, painted white, goes downward and the black hair goes straight at both ends.

You can see the sculpted eyebrows protruding but something black on them…on the upper part.

I will post a pic of my 1977 Chewbacca mask, it’s from the first release in 1977. The mask has LOTS of hair around the mouth area and not one spot of yellow glue to be seen; it’s clear.

Dean Cundey and John Carpenter have been stating blue was added to the mask WAY before they ever talked to fans at the conventions. Yes, they used blue lighting, Carpenter was a fan of Carrie and Suspiria; Carpenter loved the use of red lighting in Carrie but wanted the blue from Suspiria…that’s where he got it from.

I see only sculpted eyebrows, that look dark due to lighting, but hey, that’s just me :wink:

No that pic summed it up, they,re sculpted but I can see why u thought that and it made me look twice 2 LOL