Halloween 3D Halts Production

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According to Nikki Finke over at Deadline Hollywood (and recently confirmed by director Patrick Lussier), swift movement on The Weinstein Company’s (TWC) HALLOWEEN 3-D has resulted in temporarily halted production.

The nature of low-budget genre fare, sequels in particular, is this: films like HALLOWEEN and SAW are made cheaply, quickly, with relative unknowns, and are churned out like assembly line products. The time between casting and editing grows shorter and shorter, the interval between releasing shrinks as well. This keeps the film fresh in the mind of the audience, and studios capitalize on the notion of familiarity.

In short, time is money!

So when the slightest chink in this systematic armor occurs, shit breaks down. Well, such seems to be the case for TWC and Dimension, as Bob Weinstein has deemed HALLOWEEN 3-D “too rushed” to continue production.

All of this apparently spurred on by Todd Farmer’s late arriving script, which merely came in last Friday. Such ill-timing doesn’t align with initial plans to shoot the film in November, when Patrick Lussier’s (MY BLOODY VALENTINE 3-D) schedule was free (before directing Nic Cage in DRIVE ANGRY early next year).

As a result, initial plans to release HALLOWEEN 3-D in the summer of 2010 may now be on hold until Lussier is further available.

Also out of the Weinstein camp comes a tidbit that, given the paltry return of HALLOWEEN II’s receipts, the Rob Zombie sequel will be re-released theatrically on Halloween night as midnight screenings in selected cities. More on that though when we know it!

http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=18587

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Thanks for the info! It all makes sense and it sounds like they’ve actually come to their senses and are going to give it a break for at least a year.

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…I’d say I told you so, but I’ll refrain.

Darkly and I were on another thread on this very topic, where we were both “schooled” by the kids on this board who think they know how the industry works LOL! In my initial post, I said, it might not happen by they’re time table. My info was shot down.

Then I reported that it was pushed back to a Halloween release for 2010 instead of August, that too was shot down. But low and behold, the official news said “…we’ve moved it to Halloween 2010”

And are you ready for the NEW news on this topic? Here goes.

This film (By me…) has been reffered to as H3D/H3 for a reason. I always left the /H3 in the mix because there has been STORNG possibilities that the 3D angle wasn’t gonna fly at all. When I said “Halloween 3D” might never be made, it was a LITERAL statement. The 3D movie might not happen what-so-ever. TWC doesn’t have money to produce it, and they’re having even BIGGER issues finding backers for finance. Shooting a 3D film is NOT cheap, and when you’re in the hole already, spending money on unnecessary gimmicks, makes it even more difficult. 3D films in this day and age cost north of $40 million, and they (TWC) don’t have $40 million to blow on a film/brand like Halloween that is now BEYOND tainted in Hollywoods eyes after RZH/H2.

The mere fact that they’re considering the re-release is all a quick cash grab to do something, anything to help the cause.

To all the fools who stated that H2 was a hit, a success, not a flop etc. Wake up now, it’s over. H2 to this very day, has STILL not made back the total budget. That’s FACT, numbers don’t lie.

The current future of Halloween is in deep trouble, and to all those that said “…fuck it man! Rob Zombie will save the series!” to all those who said “I don’t care, I just want Myers back on the screen” Start caring more, because the last 2 films are the REASON we’re in limbo right now. Start caring about the product you spend your money on, and you’ll see better quality films.

Just “…having Myers on the big screen” isn’t enough, it needs to be A GOOD, PROFITABLE, SUCCESSFUL movie, not just some quickly tossed together gore-fest that’s re-written ON THE SPOT while giving your horrid actors license to fucking ad-lib at will. THAT’S the reason H2 blew it, it was a big ol mess from the start. That’s what proves Rob can’t write, atleast in RZH he had reference material to work witrh given that it was a remake. But enter H2 and he needed his own writing skills to shine here being it was a new story altogether. Well that failed.

Darkly, be careful and put on your kevlar vest, the verbal driveby’s are about to begin by the so called “experts” in the field.

I’ve got your back LOL!

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There’s nothing to debate really. Production has been put on hold. I hope that it never sees the light of day. Michael Myers has been put to rest by Rob Zombie. I have no interest in seeing another movie. I liken watching the remake to watching a funeral, and the sequel to raping a corpse. Any trace of suspense, mystery or creepiness has been drained from the Shape.

And of course, you will hear the endless barrage of noise that the sequels did it first. Nobody will deny that. But the remakes were the nail in the coffin.

I hope Lussier gets thrown a bigger bone after his next movie so nobody will want to touch this series again. Or maybe somebody as “talented” as Rob Zombie will hopefully further the gang bang for the people who “just want Myers back again.”

The truth is, this genre needs new villains. Simply repackaging them for younger people is like watering down a bottle of alcohol. You lose all the bite.

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BINGO!!!

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You know I really enjoy reading your post, you do seem to know what you’re talking about, and whats going on… well done. Keep up the good work :smiley:

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Production Budget: $15 million
Domestic Total as of Sep. 28, 2009: $32,085,050

But who’s counting?

Regardless, it has not done as well as hoped. But profit is not the sole mark of a quality movie. The 3D angle is fairly desperate.

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We already argued this point in other threads and you end up wrong. The marketing budget was MUCH more than the 15 million it cost to SHOOT the film. It still hasn’t made a profit. Period.

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Blam! Blam! YOU LIE! IT WAS A HIT!

:laughing: I find it highly unlikely they’ll churn out movies at THIS rate. Shit like this has bad news written all over it. I won’t be surprised if they shot this in vancouver or something.

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Hobo,

VOORHEES is correct, you have no idea what you’re talking about. The SHOOTING budget was $15 million, but the shooting budget isn’t the issue, the issue is the TOTAL budget to make this film, which includes MARKETING, PROMOTION and DISTRIBUTION. Then, and only then, is the total amount to make the film taken into account. The SHOOTING cost is only a part of the films total budget.

This film’s total budget was pushing $40 million DOMESTICALLY alone, and we don’t need to get into the fact that TWC is now bankrupt and closed in the overseas and UK markets. No money to spend over there anymore, and the OVERSEAS take doesn’t count towards the DOMESTIC take anyway.

This film is still in the hole, hence the plan to try and re-release it again via midnight showings in various cities on Halloween night. You think they’re doing it “…for the fans” LOL? They’re doing it because they are in financial peril.

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Who really cares who said what to who cos truthfully nobody really knows what’s gonna happen. Not one of us here have the power to determine that so lets just sit back and let it play out as it is meant to while we just enjoy all that is Michael Myers. In the meantime… Que sera!!

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well said…rumours change with the tides. Lets wait and see what happens.

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The advertisement budget was rated around 3-4 million. It was no were near the 20 million, most companies pay to advertise summer flicks.

The 3d process for MBV3D and the new Piranha flick is not true 3d. They filmed these movies using standard 2d 4k resolution Red One cameras. They are very cheap as far as camera, film, and film development cost goes. The RealD 3d treatment was done to the digital film on a computer, and that treatment cost about 1-2 million dollars.

Joe Dante made an insulting remark about these film not being true 3d when he screened his new film “The Hole” which was filmed with true stereoscopic 3d cameras.


The RealD computerbased 3d treatment trick done to the 2d captured digital film file was probably the plan for H3. And it wouldn’t cost the astronomical amount of money you seem to be suggesting to do it.


In the end all of that inside info amounted to nothing, and you talked down too a lot of members here in the process of these posts. You baited me in your original post about your H3D info, and I never had any kind of previous issues or conflicts with you before then. You seem to enjoy doing stuff like this. I don’t like those kinds of people. I try my best to ignore/avoid them.


I’m sure this will cause problems. There’s no name calling. It more of a “Do you get off on this type of behavior” post.

Look at what you say in this thread alone. Tell me that there is nothing wrong with speaking to other people this way. Would you care to communicate and fan jam with someone who talked to you and the group you joined like that. I don’t think so.

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If I hurt your feelings It’s Alive, then you took it the wrong way, but I could easily post the few PM’s from kids on this board who have tried to school the people on this thread who ARE in the business if you’d like, but then again, that would be considered more “name dropping” by another member here. Which shall it be?

And let me assure you the cost to market, promote and distribute was well above and beyond 3 million dollars. It costs 1-2 million to run Radio ads alone for a movie nationwide, not to mention in North America. So you’re trying to tell me that the ENTIRE H2 marketing,promo, distribution budget was only 3 million and covered Radio, Print, TV and Theatrical? Ummm, no.

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What they are willing to say, and what can be found online. Is a budget that rates about 18 million. I’m pretty sure they spent much less advertising it, then they did making it.

20 million advertisement budgets are for big summer popcorn flicks, not films like this.

I wouldn’t say my feelings are hurt, but you did start your original H3D post referring to me as a clown who will try to people otherwise.

Um no, I wouldn’t try to tell anyone anything. I said my peace. I’m not in the pecking order. Unless it’s something I know for sure or I have a source. I’ll never say it’s an outright fact. I’ll say most likely or probably. That’s called an educated guess- not a fact.

There was no need to say what you said… I was offended, not hurt.

Fans are fans. Some like the new movie. Some don’t. If it’s a failure. We are not to blame, we don’t make up to total number of box office receipts

Casuals put a lot more money into these theatrical runs than fans do.


We are not the ones at fault. They are.

If people are assaulting you in PM’s, well I don’t know what to say. I can count on one hand the number of bad pm’s I’ve received here since becoming a member.

I try very hard not to start problems. I’ve screwed up a few times, but I went out of my way to apologize to those I offended, when I was clearly the one who was wrong or the problem causer.

I don’t keep calling those who I don’t get along with idiots, losers, or kids.


This is the internet, and this place is for fans who seek like minded fans to talk about all things Halloween. There’s no superstars here. We are all the same no matter what we do in here. No Prospects, no Leaders, just fans.

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Well dude, I can tell you that the budget for big popcorn flicks now-a-days like Transformers, are in the $50-80 million range. JUST for marketing, promo and distribution alone. Total budget is normally at $175-260 million. King Kong was working with a budget of $250+. If a film is budgeted at $175 million, the $75 million, is for marketing, promo, and distribution.

An average “hit” summer movie is never below $175 million.

I was told (I’ll leave out my source as it’ll be name dropping…) H2’s TOTAL budget, for shooting, marketing, promotion and distribution, was pushing $40 million dollars to cover all. It has yet to make that back domestically. And international take doesn’t count towards the budget. So no matter what it does in the UK etc, doesn’t matter domestically. The only thing that’ll go towards the DOMESTIC budget take, is the DVD release.

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Wonder why I can’t PM thewholefknshow?? :confused:

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Try again bro, I have never blocked you, or anyone else for that matter LOL !

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When I try to send it I get this message “The requested users to be added do not exist.” WAIT…maybe I’m banned!!! :laughing: :laughing:

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Nah, if you were banned you couldn’t even post here LOL ! Weird, I’m PM’ing Curtis right now and it’s working fine LOL !