Logical Inconsistencies in Halloween 2018

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Here’s a list of logical inconsistencies in the 2018 film:

  • Michael Myers is presented as this infamous murderer, when in this universe he’s murdered 5 people.

-Laurie Strode is obsessed with Michael Myers and develops a PTSD worse than a soldier who’s been in a foxhole or someone who saw their entire family murdered and survived despite only interacting with the killer for less than 20 minutes and murdering her 3 teenage friends.

Not saying that isn’t traumatic and wouldn’t cause PTSD, saying it’s illogical to cause a PTSD that not even a war veteran would have where her entire house is a booby trap, she’s a gun expert, her entire character is changed to obsessive and paranoid and she trains her own daughter as a soldier all to protect herself from a mental patient who murdered 3 of her friends 40 years prior without any incident since.

Even people who’s entire family’s or who have been tortured and get PTSD don’t even get it on this level.

That’s over the top and nonsensical, it simply doesn’t work and it’s horrible writing.

  • Michael Myers fascination with 1978 mask is illogical, as he randomly robbed to mask to conceal his identity, if he didn’t get attached to his 1963 clown mask, it makes no sense why he’s fascinated with his 1978 mask, it’s just another slow mo putting on mask for hardcore fans to place in commercials(same with the 2007 mask scene)

  • Michael Myers targeting Laurie Strode after 40 years. without the sibling storyline, he has no well reason as to why he’s targeting Laurie in the original. Much more so, after 40 years, where now there’s No Logical reason why he’s targeting her and her family.

It’s basically attempting to use the sibling storyline without the storyline.

If this were a logical movie without the sibling storyline, this is what the plot would be:

Michael Myers escapes and returns to Haddonfield.

Laurie Strode would have moved on long ago and not been obsessed with Myers as she was in the 2018 film, she would not even be in this film as she would have no reason to other than a quick interview for a podcast.

It’s clear that David Gordon Green, Danny Mcbridge and Jeff Mcfry don’t understand what made the original two films classics and are incapable of writing a good and logical halloween film.

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It’s also a place where people like to come and have fun. Not have some newbie throw their opinions down their throats. If you are truly a newbie and not a retread Joe grizzly troll, you’re off to a bad start

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This isn’t a hivemind.

If threads like this one bother you I don’t know what to tell you.

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Oh boy, another one of these threads

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No opinion, not gonna say why you disagree or not? I’m writing out the logical inconsistencies in the writing, the movie has problems, and there’s no problem in admitting them.

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At this point, several veteran members here (including moderators) have pointed out that your posts are abrasive. Maybe you should take a hint or just move on. Nobody here likes a know it all that has less than 20 posts.

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-the number of people he killed is low, but its the nature of these killings that made Michael infamous, those killings were unprompted
-the PTSD story with Laurie is a bit over the top I’ll agree with you on that, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say its horrible writing
-the 78 mask wasn’t just to conceal his identity, if you missed Loomis’ whole “The Devils Eyes” speech, the mask is supposed to be a reflection of that speech and a reflection of Michael, Michael’s true face, a pale expressionless face with shadows for eyes, in the first film Michael stops strangling Laurie to put it back on, Michael did seem to care about it.
-I don’t think we watched the same film, Michael wasn’t pursuing Laurie in 2018, It was the other way around, Laurie was much more proactive with her pursuit of Michael, the scene where Laurie and Michael see each other for the first time in 40 years, Michael just tilts his head and walks off not even turning around when Laurie shoots him, there is no active pursuit on his end, it’s only until Sartain has to literally drag Michael to the Strode house that Michael starts to pursue Laurie.

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I agree with everything the OP said. This is also my issue with the film, not to mention the locked up for 40 years after being shot 6 times, not being explained how etc, and then them saying he is just a man in the marketing, only to make him survive insane injuries again and never stop like the Terminator or something. They can’t have their feet on both sides of the fence. 1978 confirmed what Myers was by the end of the film, so 2018 asking the same questions, is he human, is he more, and then having an endless supply of nods to deleted movies, is nonsensical.

Laurie shouldn’t be in this movie, and she wasn’t even intended to be originally. She came in last minute and they changed the script to include her… this was the biggest mistake, they all got star struck and thought it would be a great idea, but it’s a rehash of the previous films. H20 Laurie was more realistic, and that movie closed off that storyline, disregarding the abysmal H8.

It should have been a return to form, Myers going after new babysitters, in modern day, to honour the original ‘The Babysitter Murders’ concept, which turned into Halloween 1978. Age wouldn’t matter for The Shape, as he was supernatural by the end credits of 1978; he should have simple returned to Haddonfield, no explanation needed, and wreaked havoc on the town again. Perhaps a reason for his return, could have been connected to his childhood home, maybe it was being renovated, destroyed, something like that, perhaps it reawakened the Myers legacy, or perhaps he just comes back for no reason. H20 never explained where he had been, and it didn’t need to, same thing here. But they have a chance to really modernize the classic now, and they chose to regurgitate the Strode vs Myers storyline, sister or not, makes no difference at this point, she’s still fighting him, and quite frankly I’m bored now.

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Yeah, off to a bad start to say the least Jay.

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First of all, Myers is not after Laurie in this film, in fact he avoids her until Sartain literally drives him to her house. It’s actually the other way around, Laurie is after him and inserts herself into wherever he is at. You might of missed that when you were drawing up your list.

And on the PTSD, are you sure about that, because I disagree. I knew a friend who had a rough experience when they were a teenager, and it haunted them for decades and they eventually committed suicide all those years later. So you can take that comment somewhere else, that comment actually pissed me off. Everyone is different, not everyone is of your mindset. Just like your list, not everyone is going to agree or think like you.

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Using gifs in your replies huh? Gee wonder who this is? Go away troll

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Agreed. Well said man

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Well not only did he attack her but he survived multiple stab wounds, 6 shots and falling off a balcony. Laurie already knew something strange was going on when he kept appearing and disappearing when he was stalking her. Tommy also kept planting the idea of the boogeyman who only comes out on Halloween night. After seeing her closest friends murdered and the “man” who did it survived all of that just disappear. Dr Loomis even confirms to her that he is the boogeyman. Even if 2018 states he was captured all that TrAuMa is still there. Laurie also probably found out about Judith and that Michael seems to only do things on Halloween further cementing the boogeyman aura.

Also as many had said previously Laurie finds Michael first and Sartain brings him to Laurie’s house, so Michael isn’t actively targeting Laurie. He was interested in Allyson same way as he was with Laurie 40 years ago. He had no idea they were related.

There’s not a reason for Michael to not get attached to the mask. He probably just likes it. He used it to commit his best act of violence yet, why wouldn’t he want to dawn it again especially if Aaron and Dana were giving him access to it.

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Serial killers are also known to be attached to keeping trophies, and something like the mask he used that night would be an attractive trophy on its own. The knife or coveralls, too, though those are probably still locked up in the evidence room, would have been equally enticing to him.

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Okay…

This post already got right and relevant answers already, but I’m willing to give it a try.

I’m a true crime writer, I wrote about 500 different crime stories since almost two decades, and you better believe that, even if serial killers stories are the most popular ones, people do love stories where only one death happened.

It has to be peculiar in some way : the killing method, the killer personality, the victim personality too, the investigation…

Don’t you think a man who killed his older sister when he was 6, who spend his childhood and teenage years in an asylum, who escaped and killed four more people during one of the most beloved holiday in America, wearing clothes of one of his victims and a mask to hide his features, wouldn’t become pretty legendary if it was a true story ? I’m personally quite sure of it.

About PTSD : you shouldn’t talk about what evidently you don’t know about. I know people who, thirty years after being bullied at school, are still deeply traumatized by it, considering suicide some days (too frequently), feeling like crap for the most trivial things, and still wishing the most horrible tortures to the guys who harass them. And bully stories are NOTHING compared to fighting in a war, or meeting a lunatic who tried to kill you repeatedly one evening, and did succeed murdering three of your closest friends.
We sure do cry when a single loved one dies in a accident, or from an illness, or of old age : now try to imagine saying goodbye to three people you care about, three teenagers, at the dawn of their lives, brutally slashed, stabbed or strangled by a total stranger ?
After all, why not imagining he could escape again, even if it never happens ? Why not being prepared, even crazy-prepared ?
Some people would have surpassed it - not too many, almost none. And Laurie didn’t.
These “twenty minutes” you wrote about with such contempt did shape the whole rest of her life. That’s not very far-fetched. If someday, you seriously hit someone with your car, whatever your life was, nothing will ever be the same for you. That was just an impact, a few seconds of inattention, a tiny bit of your existence. But that’s enough to change everything.

Myers’ fascination with his mask : why not ? Serial killers do function according to rituals. Same type of victims, same weapon. For Myers, as an adult, the quintessence of his life happened during about two days. On October 30th and 31st, 1978, he was all powerful, scary as a devil, master of death : on that day, he wore coveralls and a white mask. Maybe he randomly robbed it, sure : but maybe he thought it was the best mask he ever saw. Once again, why do people prefer Jason Voorhees or Michael Myers or Freddy Krueger or Ghostface as a slasher killer ? Some prefer towering behemoths with machetes, some love wiseass murderous jokers using razor-blade claws, some have a thing for pop-culture aficionados and hunting knives. We all have different tastes. Even in our deepest, darkest preferences.

Myers did not tracked Laurie - but fate remains an important part of the Halloween story. I won’t start a philosophy class right here, it would be too long and, as you can see, I’m not fluent enough to try to explain my point for two hours without making lots of unforgivable mistakes…

Sure, you can dislike H18, you can find many plot holes in its script, you should even think you wouldn’t have done these mistakes if you had the possibility.
But the truth is : that’s not important at all.
This is a film.
Films don’t have to be absolutely perfect, they’re not documentaries, neither Ph.D. theses.
Films are made for the entertainment of many.
They have to be fun. Or scary. Or hilarious.
Artists do their best to entertain their fellows.
Whatever you think about it, H18 was a box-office triumph.
So, the director and the screenwriter did succeed.
Their task was successfully done.
And that’s all that counts.