I thought this might be a fun discussion thread. Hopefully we can keep it civil as everyone has opinions and if we can respect each other it should be an interesting discussion. Also…If you have an UNANSWERED QUESTION you have about MICHAEL or the MOVIE in GENERAL throw it out and lets speculate I will start it off:
What was it about MICHAEL that kept him alive after being shot 6 times by LOOMIS. He should have bled to death within minutes or even seconds if he indeed hit his heart. Nothing had happen to Michael that would be considered a FATAL wound up until that point. I realize he was pure evil but could he have possibly been possessed by a Demon? Was he physically dead after he got up from the lawn and continued into H2? I know this is all speculation but lets speculate people Have fun
While it’s much funner to never know, I’ve always preferred Michael as human. There for, I always assumed Michael found a bullet proof vest in Loomis’ car the night he escaped. I like to think he was wearing it when he was shot off of the balcony and was only caught in a few places.
As for your question my opinion is that is was too creep the audience out, they were expecting to see his lifeless body laying on the lawn but * GASP * he’s gone ! leaving us thinking is he super human ? is he just uber tough ? is he supernatural ? and I think the combination of those thoughts running through the viewer’s head is what makes Michael so damn cool.
I always liked Dick Warlocks portrayal of Michael. In H2 I felt that Michael moved much slower and looked painfully stiff in the way he walked almost like he was in constant pain and agony from his wounds or something. Making him more human than supernatural. Anyone else feel that way?
That’s exactly as I see it. He was shot six times which made him slow moving from loss of blood and the pain. Or perhaps he didn’t feel pain because he was insane but the blood loss slowed his movements. Like he was slowly dying but just to crazy and evil to give a damn.
I always and just my thought…I always thought of him like in the movie The Shape theres not much to say of him and as in the movie as Loomis states “This isn’t a man.” Just like in the original he wasnt a 6 ft tall man I always liked how you couldn’t tell he was so strong.So, to me he wasn’t just a human.Thats why I hate part 6 it tries to put a face on him. But I do agree with you Mike Dick to me was the best guy to play The Shape and his walk made me think of a mental patient. Just my thought.
interesting thread here and some pretty good discussion’s,however for me i could not take michael as a full blooded human being in the movie,to me he was some kind of enigma or ghostly shape figure because of the things that he could do like be there one second then just dissappear in the blinking of an eye, picking another human being up by the neck with one hand things like that but for me thats one of the reasons the movie is and always will be the horror that started all that kind of stuff,John carpenter was way ahead of his time when he created this masterpiece which believe it or not wasn’t greatly received by people on its release and for a while after,anyway thanks for posting up this thread i’d like to hear other peoples views Thanks again
This is why I loved the original 1978 HalloweeN, you couldn’t tell if he was a human or a superhuman and it makes you wonder… “I shot him 6 times! This guy is not a human!” Halloween 4, 5, & 6 (just my opinion) blew shit up, like when Michael all of sudden got on the red truck while they were leaving Haddonfield in H4 and when bunches of people shot him with machine guns at the same time at the end of the movie, he still lives So I prefer him as a human but had an ability to ignore the pain and keep on killing, I like the idea of him secretly having a bulletproof vest that he found in Loomis car or perhaps most bullets just clipped him by luck. I liked The Shape’s normal physical appearance (roughly 6 foot, maybe little less and slim) instead of like 6-freaking-8 or something in RZ’s Halloween Halloween 2 was also great, I liked how he moved slowly perhaps because of the pain he was enduring but I’m not sure if I like the idea of him walking at normal speed right through the glass door like it was nothing Don’t get me wrong, it was cool! But still, it seems impossible. In my opinion, nothing can beat John Carpenter’s HalloweeN.
This has always been my explaination on keeping the first two together. In the Original Halloween Michael Myers was a human with an evil force driving him. He reacted to pain, and still acted like a man with increased adrenaline in his system. After he was shot 6 times and flew out the window, not only was he probably dead from gunshot wounds but more than likely he had a few broken bones as well. His body remained down for a few minutes as the his human side completely died off.
In halloween 2 all that was left in michael’s body was the evil force driving him to kill laurie. Therefore he had no human limitations anymore. His body was merely just a tool, or a puppet hence why his walk became more unstoppable and his entire body remained tense. Remember he busted his hand through the door to unlock it in the first one, while in the second one he just walked right though the glass door without missing a stepped and completely destroyed the operation room door. Even after the explosion he was still able to walk out until the fire completely overcame him and probably starting eating away at muscles and tendons rendering the body completely useless and he finally died for the second time. (im consider h2 as the canon ending)
This has always been my biggest question… What the hell took him so long to chase Laurie across the street? He stayed inside the house way too long!! Looking too deep, yes i know, but that always bothered me. Pee break?
I have always preferred to think that Michael was possessed in some way by evil and that it provided him some kind of supernatural ability that normal people didn’t have.
When I first watched the Halloween movies I wasn’t able to follow along very well due to being pretty young (10-11years old), but the thing that always stuck with me was that I never got the impression that Michael was the way he was because he was just crazy or mentally unstable. I immediately, and have ever since, thought that something not of this world drove him to do and helped him do what he was doing. I always have kind of linked that to the Boogeyman, because the Boogeyman is typically some kind of more than natural thing that children are afraid of.
Now that I am older I like to not have the answer, because that to me is far scarier than knowing exactly why he did what he did. While there is some kind of thrill in figuring it all out and getting an answer, once you reach that point of a reason it acts as kind of let down in that there’s nothing left to know. I think there’s a thrill and terror in always wondering, but never knowing…a kind of never ending hunt for truth.
I now tend to think that realistically and logically, it could be one of two things: Either Michael was psychologically ill and that his psychosis manifested itself in physical ways such as mentally blocking pain that most everyone else, that wasn’t mentally ill, would succumb to, or the other being that it was possibly a legitimate demonic possession, the type that requires an exorcism (if you believe in that kind of thing) where the body was only essentially a host for the spirit that was controlling it; therefore the body wasn’t subject to normal means that would stop it from doing the things it did.
I think Carpenter was probably going more for the psychologically ill route.
The thing I always wonderend was how many hrs are in a day in Haddonfield? I mean at the end of the first one it had to be getting in to the late night 11-2 area. They were able to accomplish an awful lot in the 2nd one before daylight.
I will start it off:
But I do agree with you Mike Dick to me was the best guy to play The Shape and his walk made me think of a mental patient. Just my thought. 
and when bunches of people shot him with machine guns at the same time at the end of the movie, he still lives 
So I prefer him as a human but had an ability to ignore the pain and keep on killing, I like the idea of him secretly having a bulletproof vest that he found in Loomis car or perhaps most bullets just clipped him by luck. I liked The Shape’s normal physical appearance (roughly 6 foot, maybe little less and slim) instead of like 6-freaking-8 or something in RZ’s Halloween 