Origin of Tots Masks

I know that the elrod is a psycho, the hospital is a maniac, the h2 is a lunatic, the 2018 is a movie mold and from what I know the Kirk is a bloated shat, but what are the origins of the h6, h20, and h8 masks and do these come from movie molds?

H6 is from the Nightowl mold, a recast of a hero 6 mask, I believe. H20 appears to be sourced from some type of movie mold, same with the H8.

H8 I think comes from Cinema Secrets mass produced mold, only this time it lacks even more detail and the hair is worse, lol

That’s cool if it is a H6 hero recast.

The H20 is from Morning side movie mold which I believe they shut him down. The H6 is from a recasted movie mold NO 6. The H8 I believe is a cinema secrets mold. The H3s are from the Don Post 2012 reissue molds when they liquidated, not sculpted. The H2 is the lunatic, The hospital mask is the maniac, the Elrod is the psycho, the Kirk Is the shat/creep which is a casting off Billy Kirkus old DPS 75 kirk NOT sculpted from the lifecast…along with the nmm78, psycho, thrasher, killer, deathmask & stalker are off of that as well. The 75 Spock is from the original Don Post mold which was sold to tots by a private collector last year at Maskfest.

Seems you’re getting mixed responses. :laughing:

To my understanding…

Halloween II Elrod: Nightowl Psycho
Halloween II Tramer: Nightowl Psycho
Halloween II Hospital: Nightowl Maniac
Halloween II Deluxe: Nightowl Lunatic
Halloween III Trio: Don Post Studios 1980s masks
Halloween 6: Nightowl 6 (cast off screen used mask)
Halloween H20 v1: Silver Shampain Novelties
Halloween H20 v2: Silver Shampain Novelties
Halloween Resurrection: Silver Shampain Novelties
Halloween 2018: Movie Master Copy

1975 Captain Kirk: Nightowl Shat
Halloween II Vacuform: William Shatner Lifecast (retooled)

Most of these masks derive from movie molds (save for the Maniac, Lunatic, and Vacuform masks).

Are the Shat and the Psycho really from the same source DPS Kirk? They’re so different to the point I thought at least one was a complete ground-up sculpt or a lifecast descendent.

Yes they technically derive from a casting of 75 kirk, not from the Shatner life cast. The creep/shat, psycho,nmm78, thrasher, killer, stalker & the tots versions are all castings off Billy Kirkus 75 kirk, that have had retooling done to them. People are naive if they believe that these masks are from the Life cast. There is absolutely nothing wrong with their origins or how they came to light it’s just the “story” we’ve been told is incorrect, never respectfully understood that. The mask would look substantially different in form. It would look more like the 2k, classic 75/78, Dead Ringer, and other ground up sculpts that come from the life cast.

Kirkus 75 kirk / Shat in clay form

Also Maskgallery I believe your correct about the H20 mood they just shut down Morningside for the license situations.

Thank you for the info man, although have they fixed the Kirk masks so they don’t look so bloated?

I’m almost positive TOTS does not have the SSN molds. Sean just sold all of his molds a month or so ago.

They certainly don’t use any of the original plaster molds, but make production molds out of master copies. This is mass production. They have multiple molds in studio.

I would be shocked if they shut down an artist and stole their mold!

I wouldn’t. Chris has zero ethics left. This hobby used to be full of independent artists, but looks like each one’s going to the chopping block as soon as Chris gets done with them. What’s sad is nobody with any real voice in this hobby has any interest or balls to stand up to the guy.

I know but Sean would have given TOTS everything they requested. Now that I think of it I noticed but Sean didn’t sell a KNB H2O mold. I thinks that because TOTS has it and used it for there H20 mask. They definitely aren’t sculpted by Justin as they state, lol. I do think the H2O V2 is morningside H2O mask

Hey jimmy the killer looks a lot like the Kirk life cast it always has to me, do u know for sure that he didn’t use the life cast? Just wondering brother

This is very interesting, nice to know where some of my masks originated from.

So they use his Mold for the H20s, then shut him down? Is Chris as bad as they say? This just seems like a real asshole move.

To add to this list:
Halloween 1978: original sculpt
Halloween 4: Not sure. Originally it was going to be casted from Paul’s screenused mask, but then, for some reason, I don’t believe it happened, and the origin has become something of contention. I know every time I’ve asked I’ve been told that “it’s not important” and to “let it go.” So who knows.
Halloween 5: Possibly original sculpt? I’m not sure.
H5 Brute: recast from the original Rudel mask with Rudel’s permission.

The H4 is a Shat retool.
The H5 is cast off a KNB casting.
The Brute is actually stock straight from Rudel.

I remember reading somewhere that they did try casting Paul’s mask, but it came out too small, so they just used the shat sculpt and altered it, I could be wrong