Are you sure its my demand?are you sure why i bought them?im telling you you dont know anything…people who have to know,they know.You dont have to know and you dont know.These are the rules of the boards i didnt make up the rules,i said that again.they told me buy them if you want to make nightmares and i bought them…
MMI owns the rights to the H6 mask and justin owns the rights to the nightmare. It’s black and white. Just because you paid for stolen property from some crooked ass mask makers doesnt mean jack. You got taken dude! You don’t own the rights to anything and are selling sloppy seconds. Justin is too smart staying out of this as he doesnt have to relive the past to make a buck.
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you just answered me.lol.
gary never paid for it …he stole it so regardless how much was paid by any party …the mask rights to begin with were never bought…they were hijacked and then bootlegs were made
I can by a mustang and then have it torn apart, copied, molds made then i can sell the molds and the car as a mustang.
but since ford never sold me rights its a bootleg…get it
Well no one seemed to have a problem with producing Nightmares until you came along…
And don’t tell me I don’t need to know. Just because I’m not a mask maker doesn’t mean I don’t have a right to know what’s going on. I’ve been here long enough to know at least a moderate history on most masks (including the Nightmare) and I have seen so many Nightmares produced by so many people I could fill a warehouse with them. Don’t you come at me like that Nik, like I don’t know shit and I’m some noob.
Ok lets say it with a simple way.I have the original masters,only the original masters can produce the nightmares.End of story.If they are stolen i paid for a stolen property but its in my possesion.that doasent change.i paid and i have it,its very simple.Im saying this once again,iv been warned that if i dont buy the masters and try to make anything from them ill be banned and i hope the same goes to anyone that does that…
About H6,or H9 Scott,because you speaking,who makes the buried mask?also if MMI has the rights why you dont say anything to at least 6 people who selling H6 recasts?just curious…
and didnt you sell andrew the rights for the scarred …yet kept making and selling them yourself?
Ask Andrew 
we agreed to share rights 
thanks for the answer
Because anything produced by anyone other than DP is technically illegal anyway!! Even your masks, Nik, are technically illegal so how can you act like DP with some official product? You have no more “rights” than Chris Morgan, Sean Clark, Gary Mongar, Justin Mabry, JITB, MMP, or any other mask maker!
To me that’s pretty much saying “because I said so” (which I expect from you) and last time I checked you’re not really an “authority” here. You’re not a mod, you’re not the administrator…you’re just a mask maker, but I guess certain mask makers get privileges of making rules here.
So are you gonna report us to Trancas again?
Nothing is i said so,they told me these are the rules you like them?yes stay - no go.I didnt liked them to be honest because the rules cost me money but i went with them to stay.Some people dont like the rules and trying to change them with provocation about protection and made up theories… its simple you like the rules?stay - no leave…you dont have to start drama all the time about the rules…
SSN sells the H6 masks. Justin made a mold off a hero mask and never sold the on his site but did a few. SSN had permission to sell 30 6 masks and was given the OK to do the GPW sig mask from MMI. The buried mask is beig sold and there is no proof it is a recast and having seen the H9 mask I can tell you there are differences. Things here and there are off so it isn’t a recast so those guys can sell them all they want. Now back to the nightmare this was traded and the trade was never made good on. Justin never got paid for the mold so he has exclusive rights to his property that many others have taken. If you have stolen goods that is reason enought to be arrested in the states… I personally wouldn’t admit to this dude 
If I buy the 30 yr mask molds off Terry since you got screwed on it does it give me the right to sell them? The answer is no. You own the 30th mask molds and you were never paid for them. I don’t try to flame you as we have done business and you know how I feel about your masks. I am just sticking up for another friend as it is the right thing to do. A lot of grief goes down in the forest and sometimes arrows get shot no matter who is in the way. If anyone wants to step in the path and catch an arrow so be it. I got an entire pouch full.
[quote=“nikolasartstudio”]Ok lets say it with a simple way.I have the original masters,only the original masters can produce the nightmares.End of story.If they are stolen i paid for a stolen property but its in my possesion.that doasent change.i paid and i have it,its very simple.Im saying this once again,iv been warned that if i dont buy the masters and try to make anything from them ill be banned and i hope the same goes to anyone that does that…
About H6,or H9 Scott,because you speaking,who makes the buried mask?also if MMI has the rights why you dont say anything to at least 6 people who selling H6 recasts?just curious…
why do you keep trying to justify a b&w situation which is shitty to begin with? you and many other got conned, but you still have a nice mask to sell… stop trying to be the only one to have a copy…helll Justin should be the one pissed.
as far as the burried its a nice mask dont be upset cause other people can put out great mask other than yourself…
In my opinion, no one owns “Rights” to the nightmare, after all it is a recasted 75 kirk. I would like less bickering and arguing about rights and just get an accurate mask for a decent price.
And i scupted a replica of the h9 mask and i know if the buried is a recast and its a total recast,not even a clay press.Pure recast.Unless we have here Michelangelo and sculpted this mask that accurate,wich i think it would have been a very well known artist with these skills…and not keeping his ID secret.Who is he?im sure you know give us a name…
About the nightmare if Gary or whatever his name is went to Justins house and stole the masters i couldnt buy or sell them or anything.The big difference with the 30th is that everyone knows i sculpted this mask,i didnt know anything when i bought the masters i think that changes a lot.
And there are 4-5 more people making h6 masks by the way…
SSN sells the H6 masks. Justin made a mold off a hero mask and never sold the on his site but did a few. SSN had permission to sell 30 6 masks and was given the OK to do the GPW sig mask from MMI. The buried mask is beig sold and there is no proof it is a recast and having seen the H9 mask I can tell you there are differences. Things here and there are off so it isn’t a recast so those guys can sell them all they want. Now back to the nightmare this was traded and the trade was never made good on. Justin never got paid for the mold so he has exclusive rights to his property that many others have taken. If you have stolen goods that is reason enought to be arrested in the states… I personally wouldn’t admit to this dude If I buy the 30 yr mask molds off Terry since you got screwed on it does it give me the right to sell them? The answer is no. You own the 30th mask molds and you were never paid for them. I don’t try to flame you as we have done business and you know how I feel about your masks. I am just sticking up for another friend as it is the right thing to do. A lot of grief goes down in the forest and sometimes arrows get shot no matter who is in the way. If anyone wants to step in the path and catch an arrow so be it. I got an entire pouch full.[/quote]
I want to know who told you that if you sold a Nightmare “recast” you would be banned, because I know there are a few out there with Nightmare molds (probably recasted) and yet they are still here and continue to to sell these masks. And the funny thing is that this thread was about Chris getting a Nightwatcher (Nightmare) mold and I have yet to see a mod or Derek say Chris cannot do so. You’re so full of crap Nik.
Can you blame me?i paid a lot of money and people trying to prove that its something anyone can recast for free??i got a warning that if i make anything without a master ill be banned and people dont care???thats not right…
who?who are these people?show me their other work?
[quote=“nikolasartstudio”]And i scupted a replica of the h9 mask and i know if the buried is a recast and its a total recast,not even a clay press.Pure recast.Unless we have here Michelangelo and sculpted this mask that accurate,
so your 2k kirk then?
do you have the hoth statue from spirit to compare?
without a master yes IE … buying a mask from a maker then casting it and selling off copies big difference.