gozombie, I’m sorry this happened to you, but I agree with Joe 100%. Remember, they did not buy Cemetery Gate Productions with plans to run a business under that name, they bought CGP’s molds and started their own company. Cryptco owes you nothing. You have NO legal recourse and Joe is not obligated to right Terry’s wrongs. Your recourse is with Terry and Terry only. It was nice enough that Joe contacted Terry for you. I’m sure Joe has no love for Terry at this point and would like to distance himself from him, so that he can go on with his new business. You need to take this up with Terry and not Joe.
And as far as this Terry is Cryptco speculation, I hate to break it to everyone, but it’s NOT TRUE and you guys need to get over it.
Everybody that has ordered directly from Cryptco has received their masks and feedback has been positive, so please, give Joe a break, he’s done nothing wrong and this continued ugliness is very distasteful and it looks bad on our community.
“Everybody that has ordered directly from Cryptco has received their masks and feedback has been positive, so please, give Joe a break, he’s done nothing wrong and this continued ugliness is very distasteful and it looks bad on our community.” That is good enough for me, as long as they are delivering on paid merchandise then it’s all good in my opinion.
yea man, i hope you get your masks, but Chris is right, Joe and Dusty dont have anything to do with terry, but i really hope you recieve whats owed to you, cya, Z
I’m not saying anything bad about Joe and Dusty
I have not done any deals with them
and I know that everybody that has are happy so thats cool
the prob I have is that Terry screwed ALOT of ppl
turned around and “SOLD” his molds and rights
for how much I do not know
but I’m pretty shure that he could have refunded the ppl that he owed
also what is he doing with the 30th???
so he is STILL making masks???
STILL getting ppl’s money
I really think that these 3 guys need to get together and figure out whats going on
and post a topic to let everyone know “WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON”
cuz they way this is look is that
1 Terry screwed over ALOT of ppl
2 He still has something to do with CryptCo
3 PPl are prob just going to STOP ordering from Joe and Dusty all together
because of all this
Joe, Dusty not a shot at you guys at all
I just what to know whats going on as does everyone else
Why did Terry ruin his company? Just because people are getting their masks now doesnt mean they will in the future.
If Terry is involved (which he most likely is, I mean come on, he said himself that Dusty was his long time friend & “right hand man”) it doesnt necessarily mean people will get ripped off, it just means people like Terry can steal from collectors and then have a second chance under a different name or front man, pretty neat deal huh?
This whole thing has been fishy from the start, even if Terry isnt involved im sure they know that people will always doubt that hes not and not trust them, which is very understandable if you ask me, we may never know exactly what happened, but I think I have a pretty good idea.
On a side note i arranged with JC for the knives to be sent to Terry who now runs his new company and as he told me 8 masks were sold and 8 knives he got,from the knives its obvious that the 30th mask sold more copies from the number Terry gave me and he gave me less money from the half he got and he didnt send me my master either plus i have some jerks wich i dont know that bashing me to people…
I think he is trying for a fresh and good and honest start,i dont have a problem with that but i want what he owes me…and his friends to stop bashing me!
later
N
This has nothing with the Cryptco’s service but about Terry running Cryptco. Of course you’ll get your masks and happy with your transaction. Terry’s cashing in again. But you’re still getting your masks from a bunch of scam artists. If people know that and still buy from Cryptco, it’s their choice. So mentioning that you’re pleased with the mask you got from them is so irrelevant.
And Zephro, can you care a bit more about Terry stealing from me. Everyone had their doubts and the truth is out. Nik proved it and that’s final. You going against this is a lack of respect for everyone who got stolen from Terry (Cryptco)
Did I not say that I was sorry to hear what happened to you with Terry. I’m happy to say it in publicly, TERRY IS A PIECE OF GARBAGE!!! I GOT SCREWED OVER AS WELL!!! But you don’t hear me crying to Joe to take care of Terry’s mess. Joe bought his molds! He’s not responsible. The Nik comment is not proof, sorry, it’s still speculation.
You have no legal recourse or proof that Terry is involved with Cryptco in anyway shape or form, sorry. You forget that Joe had a business before he bought Terry’s molds. His track record was good than and it’s good now. Your going to have to get over it.
And by the way, Terry’s address is not that hard to get. Hire someone to get it for you and file a claim against him in small claims court, that is your recourse.
And if you still have an issue with me, send me a PM. I’ll give you my cell number and we can talk.
You’re in for a biiggggg surprise soon. Not only is Terry DIRECTLY involved with Crypt Co. He’s getting money from the deals/orders that are taking place right now. When the fraud dept of the FBI is looking into his actions, it’s not hard to see his income/bank statements.
If he was smart, he’d have taken the money under the table, but then again, that would be fraud on top of fraud. So maybe he’s just an idiot savant?
There have been several people who had sent TERRY masks AGES ago for redo’s/paints/hairing etc, but have received the SAME MASKS back from Crypt Co. Feel free to explain to me how that is AT ALL possible? Especially since the masks were sent to TERRY before Crypt Co was even in business.
Ok, so show me the proof. Show me proof that Terry is Cryptco. Show me those FBI files. “Go ahead, I’ll wait.”
The bottom line is this. People that got burned by Terry need to file legal action against Terry. It’s not that hard to do. PM me and I will send you Terry’s address so that you can file legal claims, I still have a box from him with his address on it.
Personally, I think people should be thanking Joe, but for his actions to buy CGP’s molds, all of those masks would have disappeared from the community, which would have been a shame. And frankly, I think the work coming out of Cryptco is 10 times better than anything that came out of CGP for the past few years.
Oh and by the way, I sent a mask to Terry for redo as well and I haven’t received anything, so don’t call me a Terry supporter. If I ever see that guy in public, this Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Black Belt will put him in a choke he’ll never forget
No, the bottom line is I can just as easily say to you PROVE to me that Terry ISN’T Crypt Co. Why should we believe that he’s not when people have, infact, received masks from Crypt Co that were sent to TERRY LAMBERT before Crypt Co was even created?
Answer that for me. I don’t give a rats ass if Joe and Dusty are your buddies or not, the facts are the facts. One of my best friends got his mask back from Crypt Co when it was sent to Terry for redo’s over a year ago. So Chris, if Joe and Dusty only bought the molds, what were they doing with property belonging to my friend when it was in TERRY’S possession?
The fraud dept has their case, and it’s in play. I’m certain they know more than you do about the situation.
What kind of answer is that. You just told me that I was in for a biggggggggg surprise, as if you knew something I didn’t. Do you know Joe? Do you know Terry? Have you ever talked to either of them? Did you file the FBI report? Are you getting their findings? Give me a break, you’re speculating.
As for your other question, I do recall, when Joe first bought the molds, that he mentioned that he was going to help Terry with his backlog, so your answer might lie there. Why don’t you ask your friend to contact the person that sent Terry his mask and ask why the mask isn’t the same mask he sent?
Also, if Cryptco is so bad, can somebody please show me one example where they got burned by them or by Night Creeper Studios. You won’t find a single negative comment in the feedback forum, not one.
Really guys, if someone is still owed money or a mask from Terry, take legal action against him, that is your best recourse.
Look guys. Everyone needs chill. I’m sorry for those who got ripped off by Terry. The truth will come into light. I still find it funny how when Crypt Co send out emails, they always sign it Joe and Dusty. If I was running a company with let’s say, “Frankie”. If I responded to a customers email I would not sign it with “Hugo and Frankie”. I’m just saying.
Hugo
You ARE in for one when the shit hits the fan. If I could show you all the paperwork I saw, you’d be reading for days. I didn’t file it, but I know all who did and it’s a very big deal. I actually thought in the beginning that it would be a complete waste of time and even tried to talk them out of it, but to no avail.
Good thing they didn’t stop with the claim, because the fraud dept took it very, very seriously and there was very little set back as there usually is with these types of things. Apprently, he’s a person of interest in several issues, so they fast tracked it, it seems.
I was told (From the findings of the claim) that there is some sort of proof that he’s involved, be it direct, or indirect. And was also told that he’s receiving comphensation from the orders. Again, be it a large sum, or a small percentage, he’s still getting something. That in itself, makes it shady and bullshit to everyone who’s still owed money, or masks from him.
The “backlog” that CC was helping CGP with, was in making masks, not completing sent out redo’s etc. The redos were NEVER in CC’s possession, they were in Terry’s possession only. This coming from 3 poeple directly involved with the issue.
So ask Joe if he bought the mold out right or if he agreed to a royalty deal. Royalty deals are fairly common these days, especially if Terry wanted more money than Joe could afford at the time of the deal.
But either way, what difference does it make, are members getting screwed over by Cryptco? As far as I can tell no. And again, I don’t think that Joe is responsible for cleaning up Terry’s mess, regardless of the arrangement he made for the molds and this is coming from someone who is also due a mask from Terry and has yet to see it.
I agree with you zeph,but there is just to many coincidences,Cgp closes, we then have another masks company 20 minutes down the road from terry buy all of cgps stuff,produce the masks identical to the ones that T produced(same finishing,hair, all of it).I know he worked for terry though.Even the sites are similar to me.I am however speculating and have no proof,but things just dont add up.Terry has to be making a living somehow.If you were making masks under another company,you would want to have grade A customer service and turnaround times.Ive always said if it looks like shit and smells like shit,then its got to be shit…LOL I truly hope Im wrong though
Did I not say that I was sorry to hear what happened to you with Terry. I’m happy to say it in publicly, TERRY IS A PIECE OF GARBAGE!!! I GOT SCREWED OVER AS WELL!!! But you don’t hear me crying to Joe to take care of Terry’s mess. Joe bought his molds! He’s not responsible. The Nik comment is not proof, sorry, it’s still speculation.
You have no legal recourse or proof that Terry is involved with Cryptco in anyway shape or form, sorry. You forget that Joe had a business before he bought Terry’s molds. His track record was good than and it’s good now. Your going to have to get over it.
And by the way, Terry’s address is not that hard to get. Hire someone to get it for you and file a claim against him in small claims court, that is your recourse.
And if you still have an issue with me, send me a PM. I’ll give you my cell number and we can talk.
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nah man, the Nik comments are proof!!! As every one says in NAG post: Nik is the man!!! Even better than the legal stuff. Thing is that Joe and Dusty sent out some redoes that were initially sent to Terry. That’s when I asked about mine. I deleted that pm but they mentionned that they accidently stumbled upon this guy’s mask in the shop . My issue is that you defend Terry and these guys like they’re your brothers.
Will Joe and Dusty PLEASE respond to these allegations.
. My issue is that you defend Terry and these guys like they’re your brothers.