***The facts about Halloween 3D*** UPDATE !

Well guys,

I just spent the entire evening discussing all things Halloween with my “guy in the know” and there are a few things you should know. First off, Harvey and Bob are originally from WNY. As is my friend who holds the high position that he does, they’ve spent many hours together over the years and that particular fact was something that even I never knew until this evening.

Here’s the deal. Halloween 3D is a REAL possibility. But, there is some serious issues between all parties involved in this series. Infact, the power struggle is alot deeper than anyone ever thought it was. The way I hear it, Harv and Bobby have absolutely NO love for Halloween what-so-ever. And this is not an exaggeration I’m told. Harv and Bob are about the bottom line, especially now with the financial peril that they are currently in. The “gimmicky” side of H3D is what they’re looking for to make the almighty dollar count rise.

Now, here comes the interesting news.

H3D has been in developement for alot longer than you all thought. You see, H3D was to BE H2. The idea that they initially had for H2, was the concept that is NOW H3D. When I posted to you fine ladies and gents that the powers that be DID NOT want Zombie for H2, it was Malek who did, it was the truth. Harv and Bobby are not big fans of Zombie, they never really were. The way it was explained to me this evening is that the power struggle is YEARS old, going all the way back to Halloween 6/666 between the now defunct Touchstone Pictures (Disney owned/distributer of Halloween 6/666) and Trancas/Akkads.

Moustapha was shopping Halloween around after H8, Lionsgate were the front runners to get the rights etc. However, Harv and Bobby had a stake as well and the deal could never go down. The Akkads and the “Brothers Miramax” were not friends, it was a rocky relationship from the get go I was told and things were always a battle. From story, to writers and of course to directors and such. Harv and Bob have the money, Malek needs them, not the other way around. They weren’t happy with Rob at all and the way this film went down, so they began prepping the H3D idea on their own.

What is known currently about H3D is this, Rob is NOT involved, Malek isn’t happy, and the ‘Inside’ guys’ storyline will have NOTHING to do with this new film. That script is dead in the water. I can’t get into what I was told specifically, but I can say that the events of H2 are very muddy and you can expect alot of magic tricks to bring Michael back to life. Zombie’s story literally was intending to kill Michael for good. And the only reason that Harv and Bobby allowed it to go that way is because they KNEW ahead of time that their new idea was in developement and Rob’s ending would have ZERO bearing on what H3D would be all about.

Now of course there will be the odd kid/clown who will doubt what I’m saying right now. That’s fine. I know who I know, and that guy is at the top of the heap in terms of what he knows and what he found out for me. He knows my love and my passion for this series.

And in closing, I saw the screener for H2 weeks back, some post prod had yet to be complete, music added etc. I took my Wife today as some of you might recall me mentioning last night. In her words she “…wanted to see the trainwreck for herself” She wasn’t impressed to say the least, but then again, neither was the majority of the population. Having said that, some of what Rob shot was beautiful. Some of the visuals were stunning, well lit, and just all around great looking. It was the writing and the acting that really were beyond saving. Rob is not a writer, he’s a visionary. His eye is wonderful, is writing is horrendous and is an amateur in that dept at best. Rob would’ve best suited to direct and NOTHING more, no casting influence, no nothing. Just direct better actors, based on someone elses script. When Rob gets carte blanche i.e. writing, producing and directing, it’s a disaster area.

H2 LOOKED good at times, but overall was just as bad this time as it was in the screener with the newly added elements that were left out from before.

1 1/2 out of 5.

You know you say Harvey & Bob don’t like robs movies and didn’t want him to come back for H2…which I could swear I heard zombie in a video interview say he bumped into the weinstiens at an event and asked how H2 was going and the reply was not good…what would it take for you to come back? Zombie replyed with, " I would like to come back and do it." something doesn’t add up with this information.

Interesting, Rob has said that in a few interviews

if what was said is true, wonder if that is the reason Rob says he WILL NOT do another Halloween? Im sure he knows they are not too fond of him so he doesnt want to be involved anymore, which is probably why he did all he could to make his final Halloween the final Halloween.

it will be very interesting to see how they play off everything that happened in H2 and to see what actors will be returning and all of that good stuff.

Sorry man, you’re incorrect. I got my info from one of the horses mouths, and no, not the ‘White Horses’ mouth LOL! Why else do you think H3D was already in developement BEFORE the results of the weekend box office came in? It’s because they didn’t care how Rob’s movie did, they had their own plans wellllllllll in advance of H2.

Here’s the interesting thing, apparently Scout, Tyler and Malcolm signed on for 3 pictures. Now, if you’ve seen H2, you’d see how that cast list could pose for some interesting issues/dilemma’s and such. But remember, “Brothers Miramax” has this plan in motion BEFOREHAND. So whatever took place in H2 can and will be explained away for H3D

Thats pretty interesting that they all signed on for 3 films considering the ending of H2. Well thanks for the info on H3D, it will be amazingly hard for them to come back with a great Halloween flick after the horrendous ending of H2

Hey show,
So Tyler will be back as Myers again? He said he signed on for 2 films? Anyway, he might have had to keep that quiet due to a contract… -Big D

That’s what I hear Big D, now keep in mind, of the 3 film deal that has/had been signed, Dimension could have ‘options’ on those deals and choose to NOT to resign them at all. Or simply minimize their involvement. I.e, Loomis in flashbacks of RZH ala Sheri Moon in H2, same for Tyler as Michael and or Scout. We don’t really know just yet, but we’ll see soon enough. Giving one’s self only 365 days to come up with a great movie seems unrealistic these days.

And we alllllllllllll remember what happend with H4 and H5. H4 broke records and H5 broke Trancas’ wallet. Moustapha had made mention of this on many occasions when he was with us. They were “…drunk off of the success of H4, and we rushed into production on H5” H5 suffered dearly because of this, but will H3D follow suit? Who knows. As of now, H3D is just an idea. The film is moving froward, but the 3D concept is still in the air.

Thank you For the reply!
-Big D

You’re welcome brother!

Well in RZ’s defense he came up with H2 within a small amount of time and also had to make the film before August, they didn’t even give him a full year I believe or a time even close to that but maybe I am remembering wrong, anyone know how long he had to make this film?

I still dont understand if the Weinsteins were that against having RZ again then why did they? Did Malek lobby that hard to bring Rob back.
And what of T-REX? Is this going to be scrapped?

NY,

Yes sir, Malek reaalllyyyyyyyy lobbied for it. Bigtime infact. I believe H2 was writen in about a week and shot in 30 days give or take. I’ll have to ask again when I go back to NY this coming weekend.

Well, I’m looking forward to more news about this project. :slight_smile:

hey show, so is it possible that they could drop the 3D idea and just make a normal Haloween 3 film without the 3D?

I would like a normal, non-gimmicky sequel as well, but it’s not likey to happen. You’ve got Piranah 3D on the way, Saw 7 will be in 3D, plus the already established MBV3D and TFD was just in 3D etc. It’s just a “follow the leader” kinda thing at this point.

This is correct. I was told this same exact thing before production began on H2. Malek really likes RZ and he did lobby for him to be brought back for H2.

He should’ve been allotted more time, in my opinion… Did they learn NOTHING from H5?

I agree Christian, this film was put together & released extremely quick. There is no doubt the editing was rushed.

Not only that Joe, but the H5 debacle is about to be repeated with Halloween 3D rushing for release in about 362 days.

And Donnie has spoken the correct.