Hi all … what’s the history please of the NAG 75K??? A link will also suffice my further reading! Thanks much! It just looks SOOOOOOO very film ACCURATE to me!
A recast of Don Post Studios '98 Shatner prototype (not the one we all are familiar with). I think the prototype was laser-scanned from an original Don Post Studios '75 Kirk blank that Don Post, Jr. kept, before it was retooled to what we all are familiar with today. I’m not sure if the last part is true but that’s what I heard. Nonetheless, Nikolas Dresios (Nikolas Arts Gallery) is a great artist/sculptor.
It’s a strange history. Pretty much up to you to decide. Nik said its an original sculpt. However, lots of people said it was a recast/clay press of a 98 Shatner prototype that turned up on the forum:
See this thread: https://forum.michael-myers.net/t/update-on-page-4-shanter-mask-id-help-please-pic-heavy/31157/1
The owner of the prototype wanted to sell it and when he finally sold it it was to a ‘private’ owner. Several people said Nik bought it. The 75K mask was released by Nik some time after and some people said it was a clay press of the 98 Shatner. JonL posted some pictures (see below) comparing that 98 Shatner proto and the 75K and there were some very odd similarities. Those are pulls/mold defects special to that individual 98 Shatner mask and not on any other original 75 Kirk mask so I am not sure why they would be sculpted in as details on a mask when they appear on no other mask or pictures of masks. Nik said he added those defects in his original sculpt for accuracy… but I always wondered why he would add those to a sculpt when they are obviosuly mold/pull defects specific to that ONE mask and not all masks.
Here are pictures posted by JonL:
So its kind of up to you to look at all the pictures and listen to the stories and figure out yourself what the origin of the 75K is.
… also, Nik, before you go on the attack and tell me to google your name to see how great you are, I’m just answering this person’s question and I’m not saying one way or the other. Just telling what the two stories on the mask’s origin are.
Yes, Nik bought it. Sadly, all of the hair was removed.
I just look for the fill-in areas between the eyes where the original DP had the eyes punched out. 100% there.
Just look for the outlines…they are there.
I can see it, Billy. Thanks for sharing.
Very obvious in those pics…
Just look for the outlines…they are there.
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wow thats really the truth…& the history
Yeah it is def from the 98 without question although not sure why anyone would argue saying it is a sculpt because imo it is a good thing that it is from the 98 since the accuracy is all there lol
I’d rather know it for what it is. Tbh, the fact that it’s a recasted 98 makes it more attractive to me than saying it’s an OG sculpt.
Randy, that’s such a disappointing statement to hear…
Most all myers mask that are accurate have been recasted,clay pressed then retooled .None of the accurate H9s would be available if they hadnt recasted the animatronic head and retooled it.Many artist are guilty of it(which doesnt make it right)…It brings the big bucks when its accurate like that.Ive seen many artist that charge outrageous prices for a retooled recast and to me that is being greedy.I applaude NIK at HANDIBOY STUDIOS for doing an all original sculpt and getting it so accurate…It speaks volumes for the kind of person he is.He has put so much time into this project and i bet his price will be reasonable.They all use the same materials after all its just some charge crazy prices because people pay it…
For me, the difference is being open and honest about it. The Psycho and Nightmareman and the QOTS H4 and SSN Sig masks were all casted from real Kirks and screen molds. But here’s the difference. The people that made those masks told us the origin. They were open about it and didn’t try to pass it off as 100% their work.
Here’s the problem with Nik (and a few others) and his masks. He recasts countless masks, then tries to pass it off as completely his own. Even saying he sculpted it from the ground up. But he’ll never admit it and I don’t understand why. To win people with them thinking you are better because you apparently sculpt everything by hand? Come on, you can’t fool everyone on this board. I wouldn’t have a problem with the guy if he would just be honest about his methods.
I hate to seem like I’m stirring up trouble, but don’t you support Gary from H30? With the exception of a few of his earlier masks, his entire lineup is made up of recasts. Yes, he’s admitted to the CS part 8, but the majority were clearly cast from various SSN and other “movie mold” masks. Not directly from screen used masks as claimed.
The FIVE, for example, is clearly a recast of Tommy’s part 5.
Yes, I have supported Gary in the past, but if my memory serves me correct, he outright said that all of his masks were “clay pressed”. Gary didn’t try to hide anything.
So you no longer defend his practice? Again, I’m not trying to point fingers. You just seem to be very against Nik while Gary has done basically the same thing. I don’t recall him admitting to any of it, however. Then again, once he left the forum (or was banned, I can’t remember) he may have stated a lot that I’m unaware of.
None the less, even if he admitted to “clay pressing”, that’s still stealing other people’s work. It doesn’t justify it merely because he changed a few details. Were the SSN masks included in his confession of clay pressing? Those seemed to be his biggest money makers.
That was about the whole H20 ordeal.
Funny thing is he now denies it. You saw that Psychotic mask he created.
I posted a comparison shot with the NMM78, clear as day. Did he openly admit he stole Justin’s work?lol
Casting from a “one of a kind” or an “out of production mask” from MANY years ago is one thing, but stealing from another fellow indy mask maker? We are all thieves at one point but this is plain low imo.
Do I still support Gary? Yes, he is a friend of mine and I’ll probably always be that. I’ve not bought from him in years though.
As far as I remember, like I said, he openly admitted to clay pressing his later sequel masks.
Now kaizu, as far that H1 is concerned, I don’t believe he ever actually advertised those for sale. I did send Gary a Shatner life cast a long time ago, however. What he did with it, I don’t know.
Let’s stay on point. If we need to open a new thread to discuss other artists or other mask origins, then have at it.
Its not disappointing, i am sure anyone would want to know the mask for what it is and lets be honest as others said almost all masks now are not sculpts anyway lol.