HALLOWEEN (1978) Stunt Masks (UPDATED 5/21/20)

[Nocturnum]

Hi everyone, I’m back again with another post. Today I will be discussing the stunt masks for the original Halloween. Why? Well, I haven’t seen a good thread dedicated to them. That and there’s seemingly a lot of questionable observations going around, so I thought I should feed of my own two cents onto here. Let’s go!

Stunt mask A (AKA: School-yard stunt, Unmasking Stunt)

This one is the most interesting of the two. I have seen a lot of people say this is most likely the mask that TLW (Tommy) first converted for the film. I think that theory is very plausible, but no one really knows. This mask has a lot more flesh tone exposed than the other two masks used in the movie, which- as expected- suggests more usage. I’ve also noticed there’s actually a lot more dirt and grime on the eyebrows of the mask, which gives the illusion that this mask had eyebrows in certain photos.

It has been recently confirmed that this mask was used for the schoolyard scene when Michael visits little Tommy’s school. You can briefly see the heavy Fleshtones on the neck when the bully in the blue Jacket (Richie) runs into Michael. I at first didn’t understand why this mask was used for this specific scene, but after thinking for the past few months, I think I know why. At first, I thought they might’ve just picked up this stunt mask by accident for this scene, but then it hit me.

If you’ve seen the film 100+ times as I have, you know that Michael gets into his station wagon and stalks Tommy while he walks home from school. I think this stunt mask was used mostly for the scenes where Michael is shown driving. If you look at the crude conversion of this mask, you’ll notice the eye cuts are much larger than the others. I believe Tommy and or the crew had cut the eyes larger so Nick Castle could have a better field of view. Driving with a mask on is risky, so cutting the eyeholes a bit larger would have definitely helped. When you do see Michael driving, his mask is out of focus or you can just barely see it. I think they most likely hid the crude look of this mask that way.

Originally I didn’t believe this mask was used for anything else, but after discussing things with a few other users on the forum, i’ve concluded this mask is probably the one used for the brief unmasking scene at the end of the movie.

This mask also returned for a brief SNL (Saturday Night Live) appearance when Jamie Lee Curtis hosted, which suggests SOMEONE had this mask after filming.


It should also be noted that this mask was most likely used for the end scene of Halloween 2 (1981). It cannot be said for sure, but I believe it is.

Stunt mask B (AKA: Droopy-eyed Myers)

This mask has sparked up quite a bit of discussion among this community. Mainly for its overall look. Why? Well, if you take notice of the photos of it, it seems it was converted a lot cleaner than the hero and Stunt Mask A. Multiple employees at Don Post studios have claimed that the crew of Halloween commissioned Don Post Studios to make the masks for Halloween 1978, which completely throws the classic story of TLW converting a few Kirks he got from a costume shop out the window.

A good chunk of community members uses this mask to support the DP theory. The darker hair seems much more cleaner and prominent than the other masks done for this movie, and it seems there is little to no flesh tone. It seems almost as if this was done by a professional. Regardless of what you believe, it is still quite a cool mask.

This mask is full of mystery. I originally thought that this was the mask used for the unmasking scene, however the hair is much more longer on this stunt than what is seen at the end. While it is possible this mask was used in the film, I cannot point it out anywhere. It’s very plausible this mask just went unused for production. If anyone can point it out anywhere, please let me know.

While I couldn’t pinpoint this stunt in H1, I can for sure say this mask was used for the infamous blood tears scene in H2. If you take notice, the blood tears mask has the same red marking that stunt mask B has in one of the BTS photos. The eyecuts are also the same. You can also see the blood tears mask has the same crude long darker hair, just like stunt mask B.

Thank you for reading, I hope some of you learned something. Hopefully, this also helps out some people who are looking for more info on the stunts. That’s all I have to say. If anyone would like me to change, remove, or add anything, please let me know!

See you all next time!

[Space_Mage]

There was a big thread, it got deleted though, it is mentioned in the definitive guide

[Nocturnum]

There was a big thread, it got deleted though, it is mentioned in the definitive guide

Yes, but only briefly discussed.

[rodysti]

Dudeee!!! You have no idea how happy I felt when I came across this post! It was a treat reading this, makes it better that I am reading this in the same room with my collection too!

My opinion on STUNT MASK B:

Regarding the Don Post theory about them actually making a Michael Myers mask for the movie, do you know the names of the employees who claimed they made the mask for the movie? In my eyes, I think it was actually that Tommy Lee Wallace just bought the Captain Kirks and does his magic on it.
I actually disagree with the theory that the crew paid money for Don Post to make them a Myers mask for the film. Given the movie was on a low-budget on top of the price of the Kirk mask (Which is a really inexpensive mask back in the day), I think that theory is highly unlikely. There is no reason for the crew to go out and spend much more money to hire a company to make them a Myers mask when they can just go out to a Halloween store, buy the kirk, and just convert it. Though I can be wrong.

Can it be that STUNT MASK B was not as heavily used as the hero mask which can explain why the paint is in much better shape than the rest of the other masks? The hero mask was handled a lot, and many fingers got on the mask, rubbing the paint off and some dirt on the actor’s hands got on the mask, which can explain the weathering and the exposed flesh tones. I can be wrong, please correct me if that is the case. I am more than happy to learn something new.

Anyways brother, great post!! I don’t come across these posts every day, and it makes my day that you made something like this! Especially that I am done with finals, this feels like a pure gift! Thanks brother!

Below is a picture of me reading this and typing my comments to you in the bed


-Rody

[Nocturnum]

Dudeee!!! You have no idea how happy I felt when I came across this post! It was a treat reading this, makes it better that I am reading this in the same room with my collection too!

My opinion on STUNT MASK B:

Regarding the Don Post theory about them actually making a Michael Myers mask for the movie, do you know the names of the employees who claimed they made the mask for the movie? In my eyes, I think it was actually that Tommy Lee Wallace just bought the Captain Kirks and does his magic on it.
I actually disagree with the theory that the crew paid money for Don Post to make them a Myers mask for the film. Given the movie was on a low-budget on top of the price of the Kirk mask (Which is a really inexpensive mask back in the day), I think that theory is highly unlikely. There is no reason for the crew to go out and spend much more money to hire a company to make them a Myers mask when they can just go out to a Halloween store, buy the kirk, and just convert it. Though I can be wrong.

Can it be that STUNT MASK B was not as heavily used as the hero mask which can explain why the paint is in much better shape than the rest of the other masks? The hero mask was handled a lot, and many fingers got on the mask, rubbing the paint off and some dirt on the actor’s hands got on the mask, which can explain the weathering and the exposed flesh tones. I can be wrong, please correct me if that is the case. I am more than happy to learn something new.

Anyways brother, great post!! I don’t come across these posts every day, and it makes my day that you made something like this! Especially that I am done with finals, this feels like a pure gift! Thanks brother!

Below is a picture of me reading this and typing my comments to you in the bed


-Rody

I know for sure Rob and Cathy Tharp have gone out to say that they did the masks for the movie. Bill Malone too, you might be aware of the Malone Myers. Not sure who else has claimed it but I know the people I just mentioned have.

I definitely think Don Post had no involvement with H1, but they 100% did with H2. There’s a chance these people could be mixing H1 and H2 up!

Thank you for reading. It puts a smile on my face when I see people enjoy my little posts!

[rodysti]

Dudeee!!! You have no idea how happy I felt when I came across this post! It was a treat reading this, makes it better that I am reading this in the same room with my collection too!

My opinion on STUNT MASK B:

Regarding the Don Post theory about them actually making a Michael Myers mask for the movie, do you know the names of the employees who claimed they made the mask for the movie? In my eyes, I think it was actually that Tommy Lee Wallace just bought the Captain Kirks and does his magic on it.
I actually disagree with the theory that the crew paid money for Don Post to make them a Myers mask for the film. Given the movie was on a low-budget on top of the price of the Kirk mask (Which is a really inexpensive mask back in the day), I think that theory is highly unlikely. There is no reason for the crew to go out and spend much more money to hire a company to make them a Myers mask when they can just go out to a Halloween store, buy the kirk, and just convert it. Though I can be wrong.

Can it be that STUNT MASK B was not as heavily used as the hero mask which can explain why the paint is in much better shape than the rest of the other masks? The hero mask was handled a lot, and many fingers got on the mask, rubbing the paint off and some dirt on the actor’s hands got on the mask, which can explain the weathering and the exposed flesh tones. I can be wrong, please correct me if that is the case. I am more than happy to learn something new.

Anyways brother, great post!! I don’t come across these posts every day, and it makes my day that you made something like this! Especially that I am done with finals, this feels like a pure gift! Thanks brother!

Below is a picture of me reading this and typing my comments to you in the bed


-Rody

I know for sure Rob and Cathy Tharp have gone out to say that they did the masks for the movie. Bill Malone too, you might be aware of the Malone Myers. Not sure who else has claimed it but I know the people I just mentioned have.

I definitely think Don Post had no involvement with H1, but they 100% did with H2. There’s a chance these people could be mixing H1 and H2 up!

Thank you for reading. It puts a smile on my face when I see people enjoy my little posts!

Thanks brother! Appreciate it!

We need more posts like this man! It’s a great honor reading this, seriously! New knowledge and something informative is always welcomed to the community!

[TheGhostlyShape]

There was a big thread, it got deleted though, it is mentioned in the definitive guide

Yes, but only briefly discussed.

Actually, it was pretty in-depth! It was my post! lol You are right about there being misinformation out there, my thread was an attempt to shed new light and clear that up but it got lost in the shuffle for a few reasons…

Here it is from 2018:
https://forum.michael-myers.net/t/do-we-have-crystal-clear-photos-of-all-3-h1-masks-possibly-an-observation/57826/1

There are lots of threads on the stunt masks, I posted mostly all of this info a few years back in that above thread.

Great post and I’m glad there is another person passionate enough to make a similar one to clear up misconceptions!

[FineArts]

I definitely agree stunt mask B is blood tears. The eye cuts have a unique way of tapering near the bridge of the nose. And that makes sense about the first stunt mask being used for the driving scenes. But in the end I think a lot of the things we love about these films can be attributed to happenstance, and fairly green movie makers throwing sh*t at a wall to see what sticks. Not to sound negative about them at all, but they were broke and flying by the seat of their pants. Fortunately for us they made a really successful film that will never be rivaled by young filmmakers

[TheGhostlyShape]

Also as pointed out in my old thread from a few years ago, these two masks are not the same:

For a much more in depth analysis of that in my original thread though.

[robvandam77]

Beautiful post well done. Thx so much made my day to see this. Keep it alive.

[Ghostfacekillah]

Great content.

[themaskgallery]

there’s seemingly a lot of wrong observations going around, so I thought I should feed some knowledge onto here.

I know you posted this with good intentions, but almost everything you posted is speculative.

[The_Demon_Bishop]

Love this kinda thread, great stuff. What is the smudge on the mask JLC is wearing?

[Nocturnum]

there’s seemingly a lot of wrong observations going around, so I thought I should feed some knowledge onto here.

I know you posted this with good intentions, but almost everything you posted is speculative.

I very much apologize… I’m pretty new to this stuff and most of the time I frankly don’t know what i’m doing, lol! I appreciate all of the feedback I have been given though. I think i’m going to fix this up to make it seem less like me shoving speculation down everyone’s throat.

[Nocturnum]

Also as pointed out in my old thread from a few years ago, these two masks are not the same:

For a much more in depth analysis of that in my original thread though.

To be frank, I very much disagree. The unmasking mask is way too clean for me to believe it’s the same mask used in the school scene. It’s definitely a very confusing subject. I can definitely see where you are coming from though!

[rodysti]

there’s seemingly a lot of wrong observations going around, so I thought I should feed some knowledge onto here.

I know you posted this with good intentions, but almost everything you posted is speculative.

I very much apologize… I’m pretty new to this stuff and most of the time I frankly don’t know what i’m doing, lol! I appreciate all of the feedback I have been given though. I think i’m going to fix this up to make it seem less like me shoving speculation down everyone’s throat.

No problem brother!

There are a lot of things we still need to put together for each Halloween film haha! Always a learning experience!

I appreciate that you are that member who digs and finds answers to things, as well as sharing what you believe in and giving your views to others!

Thanks so much for posting this! Would love to keep this thread alive!

[Nocturnum]

Love this kinda thread, great stuff. What is the smudge on the mask JLC is wearing?

I’ve seen people say it’s most likely fake blood/some type of prop blood. I believe that’s probably correct because the blood you see in the Judith kill scene has the same exact color. Why it’s on the mask? Who knows.

[SamLoomis78]

Great post!

[TheGhostlyShape]

Also as pointed out in my old thread from a few years ago, these two masks are not the same:

For a much more in depth analysis of that in my original thread though.

To be frank, I very much disagree. The unmasking mask is way too clean for me to believe it’s the same mask used in the school scene. It’s definitely a very confusing subject. I can definitely see where you are coming from though!

You can’t disagree with photo evidence though

1. The face reveal mask=Hallway mask.

Evidence #1: In the hallway photo, if you look at the top corner of the proper left eyecut and follow from the outer to inner eye, you see at right after the halfway point it slopes dramatically upwards but then comes back down to the end of the eyecut. Do the same in the face reveal scene and it is there.

Evidence #2: The face reveal mask has 3 black dots on the face, one of which is to the proper left of the nose. The hallway mask shares one of those same marks, to the left of the nose.

And now here we see two masks here. The Stunt Blood Tears from H2 on the left, the hallway reveal mask on the right, the ones you're saying are the same:

![](https://i.imgur.com/D5yq2KG.jpg)

We have definitively matched the left mask to the one Jamie wears in her photoshoot:

![](https://i.imgur.com/HLKhfs6.jpg)

We have definitely matched the right mask to the hallway BTS shot:

![](https://i.imgur.com/A64SGcw.jpg)

So the age old debate that won’t die is are these two masks the same?:

![](https://i.imgur.com/D5yq2KG.jpg)

When comparing their features they simply can’t be, which brings us back to the first photo Look at the sideburns, the glue lines are different shapes and distances from the ears and eyes, a feature that would *not* change if they were the same.

It's impossible for these to be the same masks.

[Nocturnum]

Also as pointed out in my old thread from a few years ago, these two masks are not the same:

For a much more in depth analysis of that in my original thread though.

To be frank, I very much disagree. The unmasking mask is way too clean for me to believe it’s the same mask used in the school scene. It’s definitely a very confusing subject. I can definitely see where you are coming from though!

You can’t disagree with photo evidence though

1. The face reveal mask=Hallway mask.

Evidence #1: In the hallway photo, if you look at the top corner of the proper left eyecut and follow from the outer to inner eye, you see at right after the halfway point it slopes dramatically upwards but then comes back down to the end of the eyecut. Do the same in the face reveal scene and it is there.

Evidence #2: The face reveal mask has 3 black dots on the face, one of which is to the proper left of the nose. The hallway mask shares one of those same marks, to the left of the nose.

And now here we see two masks here. The Stunt Blood Tears from H2 on the left, the hallway reveal mask on the right, the ones you're saying are the same:

![](https://i.imgur.com/D5yq2KG.jpg)

We have definitively matched the left mask to the one Jamie wears in her photoshoot:

![](https://i.imgur.com/HLKhfs6.jpg)

We have definitely matched the right mask to the hallway BTS shot:

![](https://i.imgur.com/A64SGcw.jpg)

So the age old debate that won’t die is are these two masks the same?:

![](https://i.imgur.com/D5yq2KG.jpg)

When comparing their features they simply can’t be, which brings us back to the first photo Look at the sideburns, the glue lines are different shapes and distances from the ears and eyes, a feature that would *not* change if they were the same.

It's impossible for these to be the same masks.

I don’t really want to argue over this or anything, but I still don’t see it. I don’t agree.