***Halloween Kills & Halloween Ends Discussion***

There recliner seats are amazing but once my feet go up I’m asleep in 5 mins :laughing:

My brother just got out of the 7:30 showing. He said the flashback was the best part, but he wasn’t overly pleased or displeased with the movie.

Basically like the official release date is tmw, the 15th. But most movie premieres are available Thursday nights, if a release date is on a Friday. There’s no more midnight premieres though. But there will be 7pm, 8pm, 9pm, 10pm screenings on Thursdays throughout most of the country (USA)

Dude for sure :laughing:

I just got back myself a little bit ago. I would agree with that assessment. I actually got goosebumps when the flashback started. They did a pretty good job capturing the original feel. :+1:

Have to wait till the 28th here in NZ

Some thoughts on the film from me. Scroll down if you’re not ready for spoilers or thoughts that could sway you one way or another












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The flashback scene was imo the best part of the film. The mask looked absolutely amazing when Michael was in the house with the 2 cops. It looked like a different mask then when he was arrested. Is it the same mask or different?

From then on, it kinda went downhill. The actors in these films are just…whatever I cant even explain it. Bad. I do like that Cameron came back to help Allyson find Michael. Laurie being the hospital for basically the entire movie was a shocker to me. I understand she went through a major surgery, but her character was absolutely determined to get out there and fight but she never did.

The whole lynch mob ordeal is pretty ridiculous. This film is a continuation of one night based off of a one night event 40 years ago. All the other films in the franchise are ignored. So for an entire community to go after a killer, who killed a couple people 40 years ago, is beyond a far fetched scenario. For Tommy Doyle to lead dozens of people, in a hospital, after the other escaped mental patient who they think is Michael, was ridiculous…and the outcome of that escaped mental patient…was on the same level as Sartain putting on the mask from the 2018 film. I sat there and said to myself, “what the hell am I even watching?” Basically a riot exploding not even knowing who you’re going after.

I did enjoy though Karen leading Michael to follow her with the mask to set him up to be captured, killed, whatever. But you could see that coming a mile away, but it was still a cool scene to see Michael surrounded by everybody, knowing what was about to go down. I still don’t agree with the assessment of the community and their feelings (based off the 1978 film alone) but you have to accept this is how the director wants it to be.

JJC’s presence is amazing on film no doubt. When Michael is on screen, it is a character to be terrified of. He’s definitely the star of a flawed film.

The 2018 film I found boring quite a few times, but enjoyable at times. It wasn’t boring this time, but I definitely sat there alot and just shook my head thinking these guys don’t really know what Halloween is all about. I’m not impressed by how gory it is to squeeze someone’s eyes out. I’m impressed by story telling, acting and suspense in a horror genre film. The killing will always be the killing, but there’s got to be more than brutality. This is just my opinion. If people love it then great, I’m glad they do. I won’t argue over it because it is just a movie. But it’s a franchise I grew up on back in the early 80s and Halloween is my favorite holiday so it definitely means something to me. I give it a 6/10 and almost all the positives are just JJC’'s performance and Michael’s character

Btw, whomever the sherriff guy is, the African american with the cowboy hat dude, his character might be the worst character in the franchise. Why is he even in this film??? Gimme Busta Rhymes any day lmao! :laughing:
















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The flashbacks & Loomis scenes were great. I almost wish they’d have just recreated the original in this format, or created a sequel that’s a continuation of the original but still based on the same night. For example, another version of Halloween II (2021) but the whole film based in 1978 with the clean mask used in the flashbacks… My biggest problem with this film was the same problem I had with H18. Too many unnecessary nods to the other films, while literally trying to ignore them. A lot of bad characters & “what’s going on here?” moments that make it hard to rewatch.

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The flashback scenes were the only good parts about this movie, the rest of the movie was an absolute mess, I thought it was cool how they had the Halloween 3 masks in it again but where do I begin? The characters in this are nauseating, the acting is atrocious for the most part. The actress who played Lindsey was solid. Tommy Doyle was absolutely annoying, the whole hospital scene with them chasing after a random guy was laughable. The ending where Karen went into the house to stare at the window was also dumb. This movie wasn’t scary whatsoever. I give it a 5.5/10

It wasnt bad. Ive come to keep my expectations low as to not be too disappointed in a new Halloween film. while rob’s version and Green’s are a much different approach they are all far better than what we were getting thru the 90’s with films like H6 and resurrection.
I watched it twice and noticed in a few quick scenes throughout the movie the mask looked clean like it did in the flash back scenes. there was a longer shot of it at the very end after he kills tommy doyle, theres no blood on the mask and its reminiscent of the phone scene.
some of the movie didnt make sense but I was kinda expecting it to suck so I ended up thinking it wasnt that bad. I certainly like Greens follow up better than Zombie’s rendition of H2. they showed a version of the mask that looks as close as we will probably ever see to the original. overall i’ll give it a 7/10.

coming back to post on this site after being off the grid for a few years cause of college, but nonetheless im here to give my take on halloween kills!


this may be a hot take but this definitely topped 2018 for me. the flashbacks, lindseys chase scene, the kills. michael myers is fucking scary in this one!!! yeah that hospital scene could’ve been cut for being so unnecessary but i can look past that for how good green set the vibe through out the movie. i knew going into this this wasn’t gonna be the perfect movie which is something you too should expect. of course it’s gonna have its cheesiness and occasional bad deliveries but the good totally outweighed in this situation. i hope some of the fans share my sentiments and to the fans who didn’t enjoy it as much as i did i hope halloween ends suffices! 9/10!

Do we get a proper look at his face?

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I thought this movie was awesome.

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But I have to ask…

How did rehaulers already know about the bloody mask shown at the end? I didn’t see any clips or photos released before but people on Instagram were painting them up like that and now I see the bloody mask is indeed in the actual movie.

there was a heavily reddened image from the stairway scene

I just finished watching the movie, while I do love it, can Blumhouse seriously hire some better damn editors? seriously, the focus point is all over the place

No, not necessarily. He is maskless towards the end. There is a wide shot of him on the porch deck in front of the Myers house as he is looking at Karen, yelling at him holding his mask. You do see several shots of him then walking from the rear. You can see he is balding and has the white beard, but it is in a sense blurred or whatever effect they did to conceal his facial features.

So if someone watching the film has never seen what JJC looks like in person or any behind the scenes things, then no, they can’t exactly describe what he looks like.

Kind of like in 2018 while he’s going towards boarding the bus, you see his reflection in the window, but it’s not a crystal clear look.

his hair and moustache are also blackened to be darker, I found that rather funny

Really? :laughing:

Hard for me to tell since I saw it in theaters. I think there will be a big difference in what people see initially to compare because right now, people will see it in a dark theater and some people will see it in HD at home streaming and are able to pause scenes to study and look at things closer. I’m not going to stream it so I’m just gonna have my one viewing to base things on til the DVD comes out.

I cannot believe how many people - I think - are completely missing the point of this movie. The ending. Oh my God did DGG and McBride pull a quick one and create what will be seen in a few years as a masterpiece.

And I say that as someone that HATED 2018. This film is remarkable and I believe way, way too many people missed what happened at the end of the movie. Almost all critics missed it and virtually all fans missed it.

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Michael is dead. Karen and Tommy are alive, as is the whole “group” that died in the street. This is why Karen is at the Myers house at the end and somehow Michael is in it as well: they killed Michael, Karen returned to comfort Allyson, and then was drawn upstairs to Judith’s room by the image of Michael. There, she saw her reflection in the window and realized she’s broken, the same way Michael stares in the window to reflect on how he’s broken. Michael “killing” her was representative of him emotionally and psychologically breaking her.

But Michael has broken all of them. And all of Haddonfield. He’s “transcended” a physical being. They’re all completely traumatized, like Laurie had been for 40 years.

The mob eats itself with anger and hatred; it killed an innocent man and turned into something more dangerous than Myers _him_self. The Shape is now a figment of their broken psyche and I think Ends is going to explore how they recover from it. Michael is dead, but evil never dies - it, you guessed it, transcends. Laurie and Allyson were spared, as was Hawkins, and they’re going to be central to the town recovering from being consumed by evil in Ends.

That’s how I read the ending. If indeed that’s what they’re doing, Kills is brilliant. One long red-herring of blood and guts to draw people away from a deeply psychological ending. This is why JLC called this a masterpiece: it is.

I believe “The Shape” will live on in Ends, but as just that: a shape. A figment of the mind. A force. But no longer a physical person.

Halloween, I believe, just shifted from slasher to psychological horror.