＊＊＊Halloween Kills & Halloween Ends Discussion＊＊＊

[Mmmyers]

Can anyone tell me why bodies are on full nude display in a random room in HMH instead of in the morgue?

Because it’s Blumhouse and it makes sense to them

[OneSixthShape]

Can anyone tell me why bodies are on full nude display in a random room in HMH instead of in the morgue?

I’m going to guess two things

1.) to show the the mom discovering her son dead. Help with the whole mob mentality thing.

2.) an oversight ( one of many) on the writers part.

[HalexD]

For those that are streaming this, when Michael is surrounded by the cops outside his house, are the bullet holes visible on the coveralls? I do not recall seeing bullet holes in the shot where the camera pans up just like the 78 film when Michael’s parents came home to find him outside. Unless the creators were just like “yeah its night time you can’t see em lol” But I didn’t see them unless I just overlooked it.

[Mmmyers]

For those that are streaming this, when Michael is surrounded by the cops outside his house, are the bullet holes visible on the coveralls? I do not recall seeing bullet holes in the shot where the camera pans up just like the 78 film when Michael’s parents came home to find him outside. Unless the creators were just like “yeah its night time you can’t see em lol” But I didn’t see them unless I just overlooked it.

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Appreciate it and what scene is this screenshot particularly from? Can’t really tell what’s going on besides him falling or dodging something. Sorry, I’ve only seen this film one time.

[jesusismyairbag]

For those that are streaming this, when Michael is surrounded by the cops outside his house, are the bullet holes visible on the coveralls? I do not recall seeing bullet holes in the shot where the camera pans up just like the 78 film when Michael’s parents came home to find him outside. Unless the creators were just like “yeah its night time you can’t see em lol” But I didn’t see them unless I just overlooked it.

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Appreciate it and what scene is this screenshot particularly from? Can’t really tell what’s going on besides him falling or dodging something. Sorry, I’ve only seen this film one time.

I might be wrong, but I think it’s from when the cop comes up behind him and hits him with the baton?

[MyersFan1981]

@PJ75

So watching it again today, I counted 12 jack-o-lanterns in the intro credits. Do you think each represents a film in the franchise up to this point? Since this is the 12th?

I think so because if I’m not mistaken, I think blood came out of the eyes of one of the jackolanterns which could be a nod to Halloween II.


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[Hdslasher78]

New close up pics of the hero mask

[Joe_Grizzly]

My Halloween Kills review:

My favorite part of the film were the flashback scenes from 1978. They did an excellent job with Dr. Loomis. I only wish we could have seen more of him. He should have screamed, “I shot him six times!, I shot him six times!” before he appeared and asked if the shape had killed again.

The flashback scenes seemed to move a little faster than they read in the script. This was probably because there were scenes in the script that were left out of the film. The scene in the script that described Michael’s unmasking revealing an “angelic” should have been in the film. Hopefully we will see this in the extended cut.

All of the main characters in the film were great, especialy the shape. The criticism with the characters were with the legacy characters like Lindsey and Brackett for example. They seemed to be not much more than cameos. I would have liked to have learned more about their lives, and what they have been doing over the last forty years. They simply did not have enough lines in this film. They should have been part of much longer conversations.

Even though this film seemed to have an odd documentory style to it, the story and the content were great.

The only thing I did not like at all was the ending. It was too abrupt and incomplete. I was expecting to leave the theater knowing where Michael Myers was going to be for the next two to four years.

This means that the beginning of Halloween Ends, presumably before the opening credit sequence, will have to pick up right where KILLS left off to set up the time jump.

Now my criticism of the trilogy as a whole so far is that these are slasher films that just so happen to take place on Halloween. There is no connection with Halloween itself, or the mythology of Halloween to the motives and actions of Michael Myers.

Think about it. There were 364 other days in 1963 that Michael could have killed his sister Judith. So why Halloween?

Since it had been confirmed in KILLS that Michael Myers is indeed supernatural, this supernatural element could be the segway that makes this connection. This has been done in previous films with the SAMHAIN reference in part 2, and the Thorn trilogy. And don’t forget about the prologue from the Curtis Richards novel.

If this connection is going to be established in ENDS, it had to be done in a way that won’t upset the hardcore fans who want Michael’s motives to remain a mystery.

The movies happen on halloween because that’s the name of the movie. There won’t be any explanation to it and there doesn’t need to be.

Yeah, they already tried to “explain” why in H6 and we saw how absolutely cringeworthy that was.

[mr.e]

Less is more. I don’t understand what is so hard to get about that. Don’t try and explain the monster. You don’t give the shark in “Jaws” motivation. Same goes for the Shape. I hope they stick to this approach and don’t go all “Irving the Explainer” on the audience at any point going forward. Personally, I think David Gordon Green is being kind of ridiculous when he says that anything Myers goes thru is explainable and thus not supernatural. Come on, man. The beating he took, the wounds he’s got. Don’t kid a kidder.

With that being said, I enjoyed a good portion of Kills, but it is definitely less than the sum of it’s parts. Entire plotlines and characters could of been (and should have been) removed. You can keep it simple without dumbing it down to the point of violence for the sake of violence. I think they muddied the waters a bit with the whole mob and vigilante stuff. It could’ve worked with less of it.

At the end of the day, they got Myers right. And that’s important.

[Davy_Krueger]

@PJ75

Can anyone tell me why bodies are on full nude display in a random room in HMH instead of in the morgue?

Lol thought same thing. Maybe because of all the chaos ensuing?

That’s what I think. The bodies are stacking up, and they probably picked a random OR to stick them in until they could get them to morgue. Usually, they’d stick blankets over the bodies for privacy’s sake, but they may have neglected to do so in the chaos.

[SkeletalBlack]

SORTA SPOILERS

That halogen/tube lightning bulb (not sure what to call it) scene is burned into my brain.

Totally reminded me of something Kane Hodder would do as Jason.

[Blacksabbath78]

Less is more. I don’t understand what is so hard to get about that. Don’t try and explain the monster. You don’t give the shark in “Jaws” motivation. Same goes for the Shape. I hope they stick to this approach and don’t go all “Irving the Explainer” on the audience at any point going forward. Personally, I think David Gordon Green is being kind of ridiculous when he says that anything Myers goes thru is explainable and thus not supernatural. Come on, man. The beating he took, the wounds he’s got. Don’t kid a kidder.

With that being said, I enjoyed a good portion of Kills, but it is definitely less than the sum of it’s parts. Entire plotlines and characters could of been (and should have been) removed. You can keep it simple without dumbing it down to the point of violence for the sake of violence. I think they muddied the waters a bit with the whole mob and vigilante stuff. It could’ve worked with less of it.

At the end of the day, they got Myers right. And that’s important.

Well said. Although I liked the movie all in all, the mob parts were cheesy. Also I was really hoping they’d keep Myers human, and not turn him into Jason.

[mr.e]

Its been said before, but the movie felt longer than it was, and not in a good way. This is due in no small part to those portions of the movie that should have been excised. Kills was unfortunately less than the sum of it’s parts.

[HalexD]

Kills sculpt

[HalexD]

[2pfl]

What’s everyone’s prediction for ends? Do you think Michael is captured again or somehow escapes the house without being seen and goes into hiding? I’m interested to see where they take it with such a time jump

[MyersFan1981]

@2pfl

What’s everyone’s prediction for ends? Do you think Michael is captured again or somehow escapes the house without being seen and goes into hiding? I’m interested to see where they take it with such a time jump

I think he gets captured again, and given that Jason Blum mentioned Ends would take on a political tone and deal with the pandemic, I think mental health will be a story. If Michael were to be captured, does anyone really think he could be found fit to stand trial? I just read an article that Ends will also take a 4 year jump in time, so I definitely think he is incarcerated again. I don’t think he’s the kind to go into hiding just anywhere. He seems to only want to be in his house and I don’t think he’ll be able to hide out there.


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[Meadow]

Hey, everyone! I’m new here. I’m a big fan of the series and I have tickets to see “Kills” with my boyfriend and sister this upcoming Sunday. I will say that I’m nervous about all the blood and gore. I know it sounds ironic being a fan of the series, but I don’t deal with over-the-top violence that well. Is the movie that bad when it comes to violence and gore? Thanks, everyone!

[james283126]

I have to weigh in. I did not really like H18 much, it portrayed Michael well but the characters were obnoxious and I didn’t care about a single one. The writing was terrible (especially from a dialogue stand point) too many winks and nods to the original and the acting was abysmal (aside from Curtis). My problems with the H18 film are the SAME problems I’m having with the new one. I don’t care about these characters, they’re not intelligent, they’re not interesting, too many corny skit like jokes that are unnecessary and strange, terrible and I mean TERRIBLE dialogue, like even worse than H18 by a country mile and that’s really saying something. More horrendous acting from most of the cast and about the only thing they did right was Michael. I appreciate that these films are trying to be more serious than a lot of their predecessors, but they also aren’t much better. Halloween 5 is a more entertaining film than both of these and I’d be more apt to watch that than these. Currently ranks 8th place for me.

[mr.e]

I get the feeling that “Ends” will have the Shape having basically vanished (again). Considering he’s “transended” , he’s basically a ghostly terminator at this point.